Posted on 06/12/2007 8:10:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
That can't be repeated enough. I don't care if they are legal or illegal. I just don't want hundreds of millions of uneducated 3rd world people coming to the U.S.A and ruining it by voting for Democrats/socialism and turning the U.S. into a socialist Mexico or Venezuela. I kinda like having freedom , prosperity and civilization you know. And if they came here illegally they should be deported 500 miles deep into Mexico like Ike did it.
I think real conservatives are rugged individualists. I'm an individualist and I am against giving people charity or government benefits. I don't care about helping anyone in "need" or anyone who is poor like the poor 3rd world immigrants who want to come to the U.S.A to make a better life here. That sounds like the socialist ideology: "From each according to his ability to each according to his need". Socialism has never worked anywhere it has been tried, the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, the killing Fields of Cambodia etc. .
socialism /collectivism doesn't work . socialism /collectivism doesn't work
F. A. Hayek had a remarkable career pointing out the flaws in collectivism. One of his keenest insights was that, paradoxically, any collectivist system necessarily depends on one individual (or small group) to make key social and economic decisions. In contrast, a system based on individualism takes advantage of the aggregate, or 'collective,' information of the whole society; through his actions each participant contributes his own particular, if incomplete, knowledge—information that could never be tapped by the individual at the head of a collectivist state. Hayek's book "The Road to Serfdom"
A classic work in political philosophy, intellectual and cultural history, and economics, The Road to Serfdom has inspired and infuriated politicians, scholars, and general readers for half a century. Originally published in England in the spring of 1944--when Eleanor Roosevelt supported the efforts of Stalin, and Albert Einstein subscribed lock, stock, and barrel to the socialist program--The Road to Serfdom was seen as heretical for its passionate warning against the dangers of state control over the means of production. For F. A. Hayek, the collectivist idea of empowering government with increasing economic control would inevitably lead not to a utopia but to the horrors of nazi Germany and fascist Italy.
“Just kill this bill and start over ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS!!.”
Like this One?.....
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061026.html
That’s one, for starters. I notice he’s been dragging his feet on that one. There are others of course he hasn’t even bothered to address.
An enemy inside the walls is always more dangerous than one outside the gates.
Agree, but this part of the letter disturbs me a little. This bill will pass.
We respectfully ask that your Administration enforce the border security laws that have already been authorized by Congress “regardless of whether the Senate passes the immigration reform bill”. We believe these enforcement measures are vital and “should not wait until Congress passes additional immigration reforms.”
Why should we trust them to do ANYTHING for us, if they won’t handle this one?
IMO, they have proven they do not deserve any trust on Immigration at any level. This Amnesty Bill tells us this is true. The question is, what can we do to replace the traitors in control. Personally, I think impeachment and recall are potential tools but not likely to be successful...any other ideas?
If you consider the Republicans’ biggest donors (big business), it is divided. Of course, big business wants the cheap labor that the illegals provide.
Big business can’t vote, but they write big checks.
I'm not going to lay down in a minefield. Sounds painful.
The ACTUAL solution would be doable, but too complex for government to accomplish; and business could do it but they would rather cheat to make a bit more money.
1. Amnesty for those illegals who have been here continuously for (say) 8 or more years, AND who pass certain rigorous background checks, AND a rigorous citizenship / language test (to make sure of assimilation). Also, payment of 'estimated' back taxes based on prevailing over-the-table wages in the industry the individual works in; this could be done on the installment plan. ****This step would be problematic in that it might admit a LOT of terrorist sleepers, so I'm not sure it would be a great idea. *****
2. BTFW (Build the wall).
3. Mass deportations of the others.
4. Change ALL the existing visas to prefer Europeans and other First-Worlders who can support themselves; but require a 1-to-1 match of new hires of US citizens for every visa card holder hired by a sponsoring company. And a policy that visa holders MUST be laid off first in preference to citizens.
5. A limited 'guest worker' program with the company posting guaranty bonds for the workers. Workers must be paid above the table, and possess a biometric ID card. Remittances out of the US would be subject to (say) 15% tax to help fund the costs of administration.
6. Ted Kennedy, John McCain, Mel Martinez, and Lindsey Graham should be sent to Iran.
7. Bush and Cherkoff should be sent packing.
8. John Kyl and Sen. Craig of Idaho should be condemned to pick lettuce at the under-the-table wage.
Cheers!
No, Bush really doesn't care. I agree with you. We're on the road to national extinction.
Thanks.
And, here’s another idea.....change it to “SENATOR”...put up that wall.....and do a thread and get people to send it to their senators!
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