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Fred Thompson called out on his profession of faith
World Net daily ^ | June 10, 2007 | staff

Posted on 06/12/2007 3:26:32 PM PDT by pissant

Evangelical prof 'bets' $100 TV star not active in church

Doubts continue to swirl over Fred Thompson's faith even among members of his own church.

First, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson was reported to have said the Republican presidential hopeful is not a real Christian. Thompson shot back that he's not only a Christian, but a member of the fundamentalist Churches of Christ.

Now a political science professor at a Church of Christ-affiliated college charges Thompson is a "lapsed member." And he has issued a challenge on the Internet to anyone who can come up with evidence that Thompson, now an actor, is active in the Church of Christ.

Is the Hollywood star-turned-politician a true believer?

Thompson's chances at capturing the GOP primary may rest on the answer, thanks to the growing electoral clout of Christian conservatives.

Professor Mark Elrod of Harding University said he doubts Thompson is "filling out an attendance card at a Church of Christ on Sundays."

The political scientist says he hasn't been able to find any information regarding the former senator's actual membership in a local congregation in his home state of Tennessee.

"In our tradition," Elrod said, "that's called 'being out of fellowship' or a 'lapsed member.'"

On his blog, the professor challenged the Church of Christ faithful to produce evidence they've seen Thompson "at an assembly of a Church of Christ (Stone-Campbell) in the last 20 years." So far nobody has met the challenge.

Specifically, Elrod is soliciting any information about Thompson having:

Taught a Bible class,

Presided at the Lord's table,

Served as a greeter,

Or led singing ("If it was 728b and you can prove it, I'll give you $100," he wagered, referring to the hymn, "Our God, He Is Alive," which is considered an anthem in the Churches of Christ).

A spokesman for Thompson, who's expected to formally announce his candidacy next month, said the actor-politician "is indeed a Christian. He was baptized in the Church of Christ."

A website listing adherents of the Churches of Christ suggests Thompson was "raised" in the church but may have fallen away as an adult.

However, the 106th Congressional Record listed his religious affiliation as "Church of Christ (Stone-Campbell)," which requires adult baptism by immersion for salvation.

WND has learned that the 64-year-old Thompson was baptized into Christ in the early 1950s at the First Street Church of Christ in Lawrenceburg, Tenn.

His mother, Ruth Thompson, regularly attends the Brentwood Church of Christ near Nashville, one of the most conservative Churches of Christ in the state. Fred Thompson is known to worship there when he visits his mother.

In 1997, Thompson spoke at a fund-raising event at Freed-Hardeman University in Henderson, Tenn. – another college affiliated with the Churches of Christ – where he was presented with a Bible. He and his parents have set up academic scholarships in their names there.

Sources say Thompson and former prosecutor and Church of Christ member Kenneth Starr became close last decade while investigating Clinton administration corruption.

Thompson led Senate hearings on the Chinagate fundraising scandal. He called Starr to testify before his committee, praising him for his convictions of various Clinton figures and defending him against "exceedingly personal and vituperative" attacks on his character by Clinton apologists.

Still, evangelical Christians have questioned whether Thompson is a true believer.

As WND reported, Dobson took issue with a U.S. News and World Report story quoting the conservative leader saying of Thompson, "Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for, [but] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression."

According to a spokesman for Focus on the Family, Dobson had not not meant to disparage Thompson and was simply "attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Sen. Thompson hadn't clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him."

Dobson told reporter Dan Gilgoff he had never met Thompson and wasn't certain that his understanding of the former senator's religious convictions was accurate.

"Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren't reported by Mr. Gilgoff," the group's statement said. "We were, however, pleased to learn from his spokesperson that Sen. Thompson professes to be a believer."

While Dobson has expressed a willingness to take the Thompson claim at face value, Elrod's challenge indicates the question has not been answered satisfactorily within his denomination.

Thompson and his first wife, Sara Lindsey, divorced in 1985. The Church of Christ frowns on divorce, and believes only "fornication," or sexual infidelity, can be grounds for divorce and remarriage.

In 2002, Thompson and second wife, Jeri Kehn, were married in the liberal United Church of Christ, not the ultra-conservative Churches of Christ to which Thompson claims to belong.

Thompson nonetheless is polling well among conservatives and older men, according to a new AP-Ipsos survey. One in four of his supporters cites his strong character, more than any other GOP candidate.

Thompson is already polling high among the GOP field, and is tied for second with Sen. John McCain behind frontrunner former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the AP poll shows.

Political strategists say Thompson would likely have to distance himself from the Churches of Christ in a general election bid. Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, in particular, could make hay of his affiliation with the church, which restricts women's role in the worship service.

"There are some things women are not allowed to do," explained Church of Christ preacher David Pharr, who graduated from Freed-Hardeman College in Tennessee. "They are not allowed to pray, teach or even ask questions when such would be usurping authority over men."

Last year, CNN and other media described the Church of Christ as a "cult" that oppresses women after a preacher's wife, Mary Winkler, shot her husband in the back in Tennesee. The church denies being a cult.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: churchofchrist; elections; fred; fredthompson; unitedchurchofchrist
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Considering Farah all but endorsed him today, it's suprising that they would run such a story.

Have at it Fredheads.

1 posted on 06/12/2007 3:26:34 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

So Fred is lying when he says he confesses faith in Christ?


2 posted on 06/12/2007 3:29:59 PM PDT by what's up
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To: pissant

I wouldn’t care if he hadn’t been in a church since 1973, I’d still vote for him over McCain.


3 posted on 06/12/2007 3:30:33 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Oderint Dum Metuant - "Let them Hate, as long as they Fear.")
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To: what's up

Ask WND. They wrote it.


4 posted on 06/12/2007 3:30:47 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
I couldn't care less about his religion. I'm not voting for "Guy Who Bellows Loudest About His Faith". We've seen where that gets us--how many here were praising Bush to the heavens for his faith, who now bash him here on FR? How many love Ronald Reagan, who rarely attended services?

Faith should be private. I'm not voting for First Bible Thumper. I'm voting for President.

5 posted on 06/12/2007 3:31:10 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Bostonian, atheist, prolifer)
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To: PeterFinn

If he was a declared atheist I’d vote for him over Rudy.


6 posted on 06/12/2007 3:31:23 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
is Mrs Clinton challenged on her (lack of) faith?

Is Harry reid (the same as Mitts, BTW)

Is John F'n Cary

How about your boy Duncan?

Ooops. Forgot to ask about Obama's ad nauseaum.

Get over it media. It's not an issue.

7 posted on 06/12/2007 3:31:38 PM PDT by llevrok (Mexico? Pffft!!! Build a wall between Alaska and Canada, Now!)
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To: pissant

Rhetorical question.


8 posted on 06/12/2007 3:32:18 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Darkwolf377

Ditto


9 posted on 06/12/2007 3:32:23 PM PDT by lag along
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To: PeterFinn

I wouldn’t care if he hadn’t been in a church since 1973, I’d still vote for him over McCain.”

Same here.
Whether a president goes to church or not will NOT keep me one whit safer than I was before 9/11.


10 posted on 06/12/2007 3:32:48 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: pissant
Odd story.

They have an unusual definition of "fornication" . . . wouldn't it have to be "adultery"?

And aren't a couple usually married in the bride's church?

If this is the worst they can find, I'm not particularly impressed.

Wonder who's stoking these stories? Hillary? Romney? Giuliani's in a glass house and can't throw stones.

11 posted on 06/12/2007 3:32:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Darkwolf377

Since none are “Bible thumpers” in the race, you should be happy with the selection.


12 posted on 06/12/2007 3:32:53 PM PDT by pissant
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I wonder why these religious conservatives are so suspicious. Clinton did a great show of being religious and attending church. If Fred Thompson violated any law of God and Man, they ought to show where he did those deeds - and when.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 06/12/2007 3:33:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Just because one does not go to church does not make one a non-believer. I believe in Christ, I am a Christian- and I do not go to church. Why? Organized religion scares me simply because my experience has been that churches are full of hypocrites. I will attend a church when I find one where members do not judge those who attend.

And here we have yet another holier-than-thou type questioning someone's belief in Christ. *SIGH*

14 posted on 06/12/2007 3:34:14 PM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Amen.


15 posted on 06/12/2007 3:35:10 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: pissant

There’s a list of Democrats I’d vote for over Rudy. Zell Miller would be at the top of the list.


16 posted on 06/12/2007 3:35:18 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Oderint Dum Metuant - "Let them Hate, as long as they Fear.")
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To: pissant

I didn’t know that belief in Christ REQUIRED you to attend church?


17 posted on 06/12/2007 3:35:55 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: pissant

Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you a mechanic.


18 posted on 06/12/2007 3:35:59 PM PDT by DallasSun
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To: rintense

Come join the Catholic Church. You are welcome here.


19 posted on 06/12/2007 3:36:54 PM PDT by pissant
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“First, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson was reported to have said the Republican presidential hopeful is not a real Christian.”

Tend to your own knitting Jimmie. This lapsed Catholic is voting for Fred.

20 posted on 06/12/2007 3:39:10 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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