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When it comes to millions of illegals, most of whom are quiet, working stiffs, looking for a better life, we have to be both realistic and compassionate. They are here because our government failed to do it’s job, failed to secure our borders, and, now, sudden outrage wants to put full blame on those illegal immigrants. Our government is equally to blame for the current situation. Once the borders are secured absolutely, we can look at all kinds of proposals for dealing with those illegals already here. Certainly, we could ‘round ‘em up and ship ‘em back,’ but would we really want to do that, knowing it would make us look like some of recent history’s most notable villians? Perhaps, a plan for citizenship would be better. Three months to apply and two years to complete. If done, all fines and fees to be forgiven. If not done or not completed, then... adios! And that’s just one idea; maybe you have others.

They are here because our government failed to do it’s job, failed to secure our borders, and, now, sudden outrage wants to put full blame on those illegal immigrants.

As to the vast majority of illegal aliens, they are here because they paid $3,000.00 or more to some "coyote," who is likely also a drug runner, to knowingly break the law to come into this country; they have been shown how to apply for benefits immediately via brochures provided by the Mexican government; they are obtaining fraudulent ID by stealing Social Security numbers or just making them up; in short, they are evading the law of our land at every turn. These are not blameless victims, they are engaging in predation, at the expense of legitimate citizens of this country. Detain them, treat them humanely, and then reunite them with their families in Mexico, with all due haste. And, imprison them if they ever enter this country illegally again. That's not nearly so severe as Mexico's own policies regarding illegal aliens, and you know it.

Nope.

What about; Your are here illegally, and have broken our laws and refused to pay our taxes, and are using our system for you and your family’s benefit.

IF you accept a single ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE ID card for every member of your family, and immediately start paying your FULL SHARE of taxes on the income you are earning illegally, we will not deport you.

BUT... You are NOT EVER eligible for citizenship unless you return to your home country, apply, and WAIT in line for full papers. (NO “out and back” for “head of household” while Momma and babies stay here, and get in line ahead of LEGEL immigrants who have waited years for the privilege of coming in.)

Further, since you have broken OUR LAWS to come here an work illegally, you will get IMMEDIATELY restrained and deported if you break ANY OTHER LAW while here. You are considered a probationary “red-card” immigrant, and you have received two strikes already: you are a felon by breaking in, and you are a felon for not paying taxes, therefore you have deliberately begun by committing two strikes.

You may NOT vote. Ever.

Certainly, we could ‘round ‘em up and ship ‘em back,’ but would we really want to do that, knowing it would make us look like some of recent history’s most notable villians? Perhaps, a plan for citizenship would be better. Three months to apply and two years to complete. If done, all fines and fees to be forgiven. If not done or not completed, then... adios! And that’s just one idea; maybe you have others.

The "progressive" France is set on returning illegal entrants to their home countries. And exactly who are you comparing "round 'em up" policies to? NAZIs? I hope not. I really do. The "you are a NAZI [for disagreeing]" is tiresome and shows no ability to argue constructively. So I hope that is not what you mean. And let's also place blame squarely where it belongs: a corrupt Mexican government that has cheated its people for over a century. And let's also note the "poor working stiffs" you mention broke the law too. Let's do that before implying any deportations are -- as I hope you are not implying -- NAZI like.

When the word gets out that we are going to start to seriously ENFORCE the EXISTING LAWS on the books, the situation will greatly improve.

What no one is talking about on this forum, are the horrible living conditions these illegals are creating here, both for themselves and for their neighbors.

You've got 20 to 30 Illegals living in one house, sleeping in shifts. Their toilet facilities are limited, so they urinate outside. Basically, they trash where they live.

Unscrupulous slum lords are looking to make a fast buck, while the Illegals only need a mattress to sleep on. Doesn't matter how nasty it is.

It's disgusting, and what's worse is I fear it will eventually happen in my own quiet neighborhood.

Perhaps, a plan for citizenship would be better. Three months to apply and two years to complete. If done, all fines and fees to be forgiven. If not done or not completed, then... adios! And that’s just one idea; maybe you have others.

Let me make sure I understand you here. You think it is a good idea to put people who broke our laws to get into our country on the fast track to citizenship while allowing all the people who followed the rules to enter this country legally should wait for years. That so we can be seen as 'compassionate'?

Is that your position? If so, I strongly disagree. Those who crossed the border illegally should NOT be rewarded with citizenship. I do not think we need to deport them all but they should only be offered citizenship IF they return to their countries and apply for legal immigration like any other applicant.