Posted on 06/12/2007 1:32:21 PM PDT by madprof98
The issue is the victim's age, not the perp's age.
When he graduates from Harvard? I mean, why not? The media have been promoting him as a college-bound paragon who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time--that place and time being the videotaped orgy with girls too drugged up to know what was happening.
That's a legalistic way of weaseling out of an answer. Do you think kids suddenly become wise to the ways of the world on their 16th birthday? Would you prosecute a girl two days after her 16th birthday for having sex with her boyfriend who doesn't turn 16 for another week? To me, that seems a little strange, but I'm genuinely interested in an explanation.
I discover that others were convicted of sexual battery on the the other girl.
But not this kid, an honor student and a star athlete, who was nevertheless sentenced to 10 years in prison. Odd.
The lawyer representing the kid who was imprisoned for oral sex is named BJ? Oh, the irony! :0)
There was an earlier case where a 17 year old girl packed her bags and went with a bunch of kids. This boy was among them. she got loaded, high etc. It was videotaped. The girl cried rape the next morning to her Mom. All the boys but this kid pleaded out-they were threatened with 25 year sentences. This kid would not. It went to trial and he was acquitted. This 15 year old girl was his girlfriend. There is lots of underage sex going on, you are going to need many jails if it is a crime.
So go do something else.
I think punk is a good description of a young man that raped a 17 year old girl (he got off since she was too intoxicated to identify him) and got a gang bang BJ from a 15 year old while his Posse recorded it on a cameraphone.
What word would you choose?
Now, picture it is your 15 year old daughter, now what word would you use.
Really? Because if two high school kids have sex and during the course of the relationship one turns sixteen you want to prosecute him or her for rape? I'm not sure I follow. The whole idea of statutory rape is an implicit power dynamic -- I'm not sure I see that in this or similar cases.
No point bothering these people with the facts. They got their “facts” from the newspapers. Their “honor student” is the type who drugs girls and screws them on camera, but so what? I mean, he’s an “honor student.”
The AG is duty-bound to enforce the laws of the state. It has nothing to do with 'saving face'.
Why was he even arrested, let alone charged, in the first place?
Because he broke the law, and then put it out in a video for all to see.
The law can be changed, but in the meantime, this kid screwed up, and now he's ticked off that he's paying the price for his screw up (even though he was offered a deal so it would go easier on him).
Initially, I thought this sentence was unfair. Now that I've learned more about it, I figure the kid caused his own problems and have no sympathy for him.
I never used to understand why Rudy Giuliani had so many ardent supporters on this forum. I think I understand now.
Now, picture it is your 15 year old daughter, now what word would you use.
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How about whore? She gave him oral sex. How many 17 year olds would turn it down. The jails would be filled with 17 year olds if this was prosecuted very often.
I'm not weaseling out of anything, I don't have enough *FACT* at hand to make a determination as to whether or not this consent was truly consent, or was born of some other factor, though the possiblity for other factors is apparently in play with the few facts I do know. Thus, my determination comes from the law, as it is written. If that makes me "legalistic", then so be it...
the infowarrior
So he wasn't identified but you still want him behind bars? How do you know it was him? Is it just me, or is this vendetta against this kid seeming a little ridiculous. Note that the 15 year old in question in THIS CASE says that everything was consensual. Now I'm not saying I'd like this kid or want him around my daughters, but putting him in prison for a consensual act with someone essentially his own age seems utterly absurd.
What does Rudy Giuliani have to do with you being a red neck racist?
This PUNK turned down this deal:
As recently as this past weekend, the Douglas County District Attorney’s office offered Genarlow Wilson’s attorneys a plea deal that would have allowed Genarlow Wilson to plead to First Offender Treatment, which would mean that he would not have a criminal record nor would he be subject to registering on the sex-offender registry once his sentence had been completed. The plea deal, if accepted by Genarlow Wilson’s lawyers, could also result in Genarlow Wilson receiving a sentence substantially shorter than the 10-year mandatory minimum sentence for which he was originally sentenced, possibly leading to his release based upon time already served. Genarlow Wilson, through his attorneys, rejected all of those offers. The District Attorney’s office has indicated that the plea offer will remain available to Genarlow Wilson notwithstanding the appeals process.
Sounds like he should serve 8 more years.
Respect for the law <> Racism, if you really feel that way go here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
You will be far more comfortable there.
He’s calling you a left wing troll, but in a oblique way.
Judging from your posts in this thread, that is a correct designation.
I was just reading the other thread about the 12 year old who plotted and followed through on killing her parents and 8 year old brother to be with her 22 year old boyfriend. Seems like we don't give these "kids" enough credit for what they are capable of consenting to.
Giuliani’s followers are the kind of people who substitute PC name-calling for morals and values. What if the punk were white? What name would you call me then?
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