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1 posted on 06/12/2007 3:40:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
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“As one who never doubted the original U.S. government report that Oswald acted alone, I am deeply grateful to Bugliosi for the service he has rendered our country. But I also regret that he had to. ”

Amen...

2 posted on 06/12/2007 3:43:33 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Kaslin

7. Some people have brains the size of a pea.


3 posted on 06/12/2007 3:44:44 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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But somehow, despite the fact that the government can rarely hide for months even what it wishes to hide,
both Democratic and Republican administrations acting in cooperation with each other have hidden these facts.

By similar logic, there were no stolen FBI files because
there could never be cooperation.


4 posted on 06/12/2007 3:47:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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> but there are no successful hidden conspiracies. I cannot think of one in my lifetime.)

Freemasonry anyone? or The Illuminati? The 5 Jewish Bankers? Pinky & The Brain? The Bonesmen? /s


6 posted on 06/12/2007 3:53:01 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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1. Many people find it impossible to believe that a few utterly unimpressive individuals can do so much damage. Lee Harvey Oswald, a man who can best be described as simply a loser, could change history all by himself? It doesn't seem to make sense.

Maybe..but Oswald was exactly the type to try to assassinate a political leader. Inexplicably grandiose.. fanatical..his whole life seemed to be about getting some recognition using the most pathetic means, probably because he was so mediocre they were the only means he had.

7 posted on 06/12/2007 4:03:54 AM PDT by bkepley
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bttt - Such mentalities are quite accurately psychoanalyzed here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846016/posts?page=77#77


11 posted on 06/12/2007 4:20:34 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Leftism is a coalition of the over and undereducated/immature and the stupid" ~Gagdad)
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One historian, I wish I could remember who, made the analogy that the Holocaust made sense — it was a great crime, conducted by a mighty gang of criminals.

The JFK assassination, on the other hand, doesn’t have that kind of symmetry; how could a crime that so deeply affected so many be the act of one lone dips-—t?

No one questions that Charles Guiteau acted alone in killing President Garfield, or that Leon Czolgosz acted alone in killing President McKinley, because neither of those men inspired as many people as Kennedy did.

Lincoln’s assassination was indeed the product of a small conspiracy, one that saw Booth shot and six of his confederates (pun intended) hanged. But it was a conspiracy that largely failed — the plan was to decapitate the government by killing the president and cabinet, but most of his comrades flaked out, and at the end of the day only Lincoln was dead and Seward injured.

Conspiracy theories rise from emotional needs more than cold reason. We want to believe in supervillains. Sherlock Holmes needs a Professor Moriarty. Looking at the horror of 9/11, we don’t want to believe that it could be the work of nineteen idiots with box-cutters, no matter how much help they had in funding and planning.

But history is like that. Terror comes from where we don’t expect it, BECAUSE we don’t expect it. They know that.


12 posted on 06/12/2007 4:26:00 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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“The Truth?......You can’t handle the truth!”

We haven’t and never will live in a world of FULL DISCLOSURE.


15 posted on 06/12/2007 4:51:22 AM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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Some are true, some are partly true, and some are not true at all. You can not say all are not true.


19 posted on 06/12/2007 5:30:39 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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I think Dennis leaves off the number one reason for belief in conspiracie theories: The government lies. The number two reason is that the government does things that are destructive and there is no good explanation for the reason why.

Let's take the current immigration bill. If you got a room full of ordinary Americans together and went through the provisions in this bill. They would be astounded. Why would anyone propose such a destructive action?

There is no good reason for it, so one is likely to come up with a conspiracy theory.

Specifically, in the JFK murder case, the Dallas PD had interviewed Oswald for a period of a couple of hours. No recording was made, no notes were taken. Why? Oswald had suspicious connections to US and possibly KGB intelligence services. This was kept covered up. The investigation was bungled in other ways. The crime scene of JFK's limo was cleaned by the Secret Service. Why? Why was JFK's body hijacked by the Secret Service and taken to Bethesda for the autopsy? Lot's of inexplicable actions with no good explanations given.

21 posted on 06/12/2007 6:28:32 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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“Why People Believe in Conspiracies”

This has been a trait in Humans since the Snake (Satan) told Adam and Eve that God was not telling them the truth about the Tree of Life.
What is different is that now days conspiracies are fed by the world wide web. At the speed of light news about deadly toilet spiders, AIDS needles on theater seats, Microsoft giveaways if you forward this to 10 people, The new North American Flag, and even Hogzilla. With this new technology, we all have to examine these stories more carefully before we panic and send it to everyone we know.

23 posted on 06/12/2007 6:59:43 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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5. There is, apparently, a great yearning among many people to believe that there is hidden knowledge and that they have access to it. It makes them feel special, perhaps even superior to the rest of us who do not have access to this hidden knowledge.

I think that's the biggest reason. It's cool to "know" something that no one else knows.

26 posted on 06/12/2007 7:05:27 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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I got called a conspiracy theorist a LOT during the Clinton years. I didn’t and don’t believe the official stories about Vincent Foster, Flight 800, or Oklahoma City.

But 9/11 is in a totally different category. If the official version of things is not true, you are left with the question of what happened to the four planes that were hijacked that day and their passengers. Too much has to be explained away.

My rule is to go with whatever does the least violence to Occam’s Razor. Much of the time that means going with the official version. But sometimes its the conspiracy theory.


28 posted on 06/12/2007 8:10:36 AM PDT by murdoog
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From JFK to 9/11: Why People Believe in Conspiracies

The reason people believe in conspiracies is that the reptilian shape-shifters who control the CFR have implanted them in our butts using microchips.

30 posted on 06/12/2007 8:15:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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Why, then, do people believe in these and other conspiracies?

Much that goes on is kept hidden and out of sight. That's how it has always been and how it will always be. The ones who need to concern themselves with conspiracies are Kings and Sultans and autocratic rulers of Venezuela who sometimes find themselves dumped out of their cozy palaces with no warning.

31 posted on 06/12/2007 8:21:06 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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Large numbers of people can keep some secrets, or at least keep knowledge from most people. Lots of people who voted for FDR didn’t know he was half paralyzed. Until recently, powerful politicians could live scum-bag lives and the press wouldn’t let the cat outta the bag, even though it was well known to them. The vast majority of Americans were stunned when they first saw the stealth bomber.

Can large numbers of people keep a secret forever? The only way to know for sure is to be one of the secret keepers.

Freegards


32 posted on 06/12/2007 8:23:29 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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Ok, Lee Harvey Oswald was the "Lone Gunman", and the "Grassy Knoll" was ... just a knoll with grass on it. What is a "knoll" anyway? I digress, but as I have heard and remember it, there is just one other loose end that needs to be addressed, and that is the testimony of the "autopsy doctors". According to what I remember reading and hearing in various conspiracy documentaries, some of the doctors that participated in the JFK autopsy on that November day in '63.

They tell of seeing a head wound that was considerably different from the one officially documented and photographed. What they tell of is an entry wound in the right-front of the skull, and a massive blowout exit wound in the back, the opposite of what is traditionally described and ascribed to Oswald's Mannlicher-Carcano, fired from the right-rear and above.

The claim then is that the photos we have seen were either "doctored" or more likely just faked to fit the single gunman circumstances. I've not seen these testimonies mentioned, much less debunked, by any of the new single gunman theory books. Am I correct, or have I missed crucial evidence that debunks this aspect of the story?

34 posted on 06/12/2007 8:58:54 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Kaslin

bump.


35 posted on 06/12/2007 9:14:00 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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I would love to find out that a particular conspiracy theory was true, because that would be So Cool! Seriously!

However, as non-falsifiable hypotheses, they are pretty much useless, except as mental m*st@rb&tion

38 posted on 06/18/2007 12:14:10 PM PDT by Paradox (Remember Reagan's 11th Commandment.)
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The Kennedy assassination is the only major historical event that I know of that I DO believe in a conspiracy, so I'm not a conspiracy buff. Bravo for so voluntarily and succinctly putting into words how the anti-conspiracy folks such as yourself think when you said

..."but there are no successful hidden conspiracies. I cannot think of one in my lifetime."

Of course not! This is amusing. It's just like everybody thinks that they can spot a wig because they've noticed the bad ones, while probably 10 great ones never caught their eye. Of course you've never known of a successful conspiracy! It wouldn't be successful if YOU did now would it?
39 posted on 08/08/2007 9:19:18 PM PDT by TexanInWashington
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