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Paris banged up ... again (Prisoner Riot Feared over Hilton Special Treatment)
The Sun ^ | 6-9-07 | EMILY SMITH

Posted on 06/09/2007 9:34:01 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

PETRIFIED PARIS HILTON mouthed “I love you” to her parents last night — before being carted off to face a hostile reception in prison.....[snip]

[snip]Prisoner number 9818783 was put back in her special cell — isolated from other inmates — amid fears the angry lags could RIOT over her special treatment.

Wardens even ordered a lockdown as prisoners — who think Paris pretended to be sick to con doctors — threatened a revolt.

An insider at the prison in Lynwood, California, said: “The women inside the jail are seething. They say if you’re a rich white girl you get special treatment.

“They are furious that while Paris had her own special cell with a panic button, was given better food and was kept away from the general population, she was still released early.

“There are girls in here with cancer, TB, and with MRSA. They aren’t allowed to go home and are treated by prison medical staff.

“The prisoners think if you’re rich and pretend you’re sick you can get away with murder.

“Many of the girls have been locked down in their cells all day because they are so furious. The jail is full of screams about Paris.

“Prison bosses fear this could simmer over into violence.”

Ex-inmate Lisa Caprie said she suffered a nervous breakdown inside but was kept there.

She said: “We heard Paris was treated like the Queen of England. It’s not fair. My husband fought to get me out when I had a breakdown but they didn’t listen.”

And Elana Lamb, set free with an ankle tag, said Paris made a nuisance of herself by repeatedly pressing a medical alert button.

Lamb, 38, said: “She was just whining, complaining she was cold and hungry.”............."

(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: californiaisdead; celebbrityjustice; hilton; mommy; parishilton; sad; slut; stfuparis; tabloidtrash
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To: advertising guy
I agree with you. It’s astounding that a twenty-six year old would be crying for mommy. That should follow her for the rest of her days.
101 posted on 06/09/2007 10:49:40 AM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: The Worthless Miracle
If Martha Stewart can do it, I’m sure Paris can.

Yes, and Martha Steward showed tremendous class when she did it too. Paris has shown herself to have no class at all.

102 posted on 06/09/2007 10:50:10 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: altura
They had about 8 items and could have gone through the quick check out.

The Catholic spiritual life has this idea that you atone for your sins on earth. If you are presented with a difficult situation, you endure it to atone for your sins. You might even go so far as to choose to stand in the regular Wal-Mart line rather than go to the quick checkout line.

That's what the nuns were doing.

103 posted on 06/09/2007 10:51:42 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Dumpster Baby

Where do I sign up?


104 posted on 06/09/2007 10:53:24 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: All

I wonder if her unspecified medical condition is withdrawl?


105 posted on 06/09/2007 10:54:54 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: MNJohnnie
A sane Judge would of fined her $1 mil or sentenced her to 200,000 hours of community service rather then inflict this circus on the jail.

23 years of community service?

106 posted on 06/09/2007 10:54:59 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: MNJohnnie
The people paying the price for this media grandstanding from the Judge here are the guys that got to try an run that jail. Just so a bunch of pathetic losers can sit around read junk media reports and feel all good and macho for "getting even with that rich bi'ch"

From another source...

Did family money buy Paris Hilton a temporary get-out-of-jail card?

Sheriff Lee Baca, the Los Angeles law-enforcement official who ordered Hilton released from jail after serving only three days in her 45-day sentence, accepted a $1,000 campaign donation last year from William Barron Hilton—Paris's grandfather. That contribution constituted the maximum amount allowable under California campaign rules.

Baca has come under heavy fire for deciding to let Hilton serve out the remainder of her sentence at home, in apparent defiance of the orders given by the judge who sentenced her last month. Baca has said that Hilton was suffering from a "medical condition," an explanation that has not fared well under scrutiny. This afternoon, Judge Michael T. Sauer ordered Hilton back to jail. She reportedly left the courtroom screaming "It's not right! Mom!"

In office since 1998, Baca has cultivated close ties to the Hollywood community. Others who donated money to his campaign last year included Rupert Murdoch, Les Moonves, Ron Meyer, Brad Grey, Steven Segal, and Burt Bacharach. He was assailed last year over a claim by the Sheriff's Department that Mel Gibson had been arrested without incident, when the star had actually spewed anti-Semitic statements after getting pulled over for drunk driving. It soon emerged that Gibson had taped a public service announcement for Baca's relief committee.

Baca has not yet responded to a request for comment.

Hmm special favors for campaign cash... nawwww, not in America.

107 posted on 06/09/2007 10:55:51 AM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: Dumpster Baby

108 posted on 06/09/2007 10:56:03 AM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: advertising guy

Well, tell us about Paris. What was your impression of her?

Call me nuts, but I actually find her kind of charming.


109 posted on 06/09/2007 10:56:22 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: weegee
I think the key word here is rich.
110 posted on 06/09/2007 10:58:36 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Yardstick
Call me nuts, but I actually find her kind of charming.

Allow me to be the first................YOU'RE NUTS!!!

;)

111 posted on 06/09/2007 10:59:41 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
The simple fact of the matter is if she were NOT famous her lawyer and the prosecutor would of plea bargained this case and she would of spent little or no time in jail.

She got a plea bargain. She got probation, loss of driver’s license, and she had to take an alcohol education course (since she obviously know how to drink, presumably about the downsides thereof). She violated her probation repeatedly, didn’t show up for the course. She’s continued to drive drunk, with the possibility of injuring or killing someone, with her license revoked. She refuses to actually take the light punishment that she was handed, now she gets something more severe.

Learn the facts of a situation before you comment on it.

112 posted on 06/09/2007 11:00:10 AM PDT by Cheburashka (DUmmieland = Opus Dopium. In all senses of the word dope.)
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To: MNJohnnie

You are a nasty piece of work, johnnie.


113 posted on 06/09/2007 11:01:03 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: MNJohnnie
"She is NOT “just like everyone else” no matter how much that offend the pseudo egalitarianism of the average American."

She puts her pants on one leg at a time......just like the rest of us. The fact that she acts like a five-year-old is her own problem.

114 posted on 06/09/2007 11:01:38 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: muawiyah
A wise leader would have said, "I'm happy that this troubled young woman is able to serve justice under the aid of her natural family. I want all other such prisoners the same opportunity. Perhaps we can find volunteer citizens who will donate money to pay for the tracking anklet that similar obviously-not-really-dangerous-to-society traffic violators but repeat offenders will wear."

Rev Al Sharpton is not this wise leader. He does not believe in Mercy.

Because of comments that poke at the obvious fact that a white girl who's family has a lot of money are going through a tough time, Rev Al Sharpton chose not to extend similar mercy to other families who are not as rich or white, but to demand "justice" for all law breakers. Yes, she broke the law several times. Yes, she deserved jail time AND she did, in fact, go to jail. But there are worse criminals than repeat traffic violators.

When words are spoken of your or my appearance or economic viability in such a manner, they aren't meant as means to find common ground. These words divide. When Rev Al Sharpon expresses words like this, they are a threat of violence--especially in cities known to have violent riots when the population is stirred up over supposed "racial" differences.



For example, Rodney King & OJ Simpson.

Because Rev Al Sharpton choose to divide us, he is using natural difference as unnatural divisions. Rev Al Sharpton has split from the message of Christianity. He is also unqualified as a leader who might bring others to a common goal. He is self-serving with the interest of holding others to a standard that he won't accept for himself. He holds us prisoner to our appearance and economic background.

What is race, Mr. Sharpton?

If a man as white as a lily leaf in a snow storm conceive a child with a woman as dark as chocolate during a moonless midnight...what is the race of the child? Human race, Mr. Sharpton. The baby is a human of the race "human". It's not about appearance and neither is Justice or serving the law.

If a rich woman falls in love with the young penniless man cleaning her pool and they have a child, how different is that child from a very poor couple producing children with no inheritance, Mr. Sharpton? How different is that child from a couple so rich they don't know what "poor" means, Mr. Sharpton? The answer, Mr. Sharpton is that there's no difference. Children are children. It's not about economic background but about Natural Law and the nurture of Natural Family over artificial environment of self-imposed and godless society. What and who are you serving, Al?

But because you are not merciful, Mr. Sharpton, comments like yours from a well media-represented threatening inciteful position, you have guaranteed ZERO sympathy for your "constituents" of the supposed background you seek to represent. In fact, the very super wealthy you have managed to isolate from their family are in a very strong position to not buy the tracking anklets that they could have funded for obviously not-so-dangerous traffic violators, but will fund the "needed" prisons for "justice" that you, Mr. Sharpton, want EVERYONE to serve.

Congratulations Al. You could have guaranteed family time with slightly restricted freedoms for troubled individuals in our society. You could have extended mercy for people who need the loving bonds of family and not meaningless numbing wards of the state. But instead, you shackle people to an overburdened system. This story of a troubled young girl that burns easily in the sun who also comes from a hard working self-made super rich family wasn't about "justice". This story had to be about you, Al.

And here's your legacy, Al. You've managed to put an extremely wealthy family in the position of looking upon anyone with a slightly darker tan and with a slightly smaller paycheck (which is almost all of us) as a potential predator who will jealously enslave them to the whim of a mob and an overtaxed secular social machine. Not only are the Hilton's super wealthy, Al, but they make HOTELS. How hard is it for the Hiltons to shift gears from making opulent hotels to slightly higher than the lowest bidder prisons to house ALL the law breakers like the people you think you represent, Al?

Satan, wasn't this in your plan from the beginning?

Do you think that we wouldn't see through it? Are traffic fines going to be opportunity for you to split natural families and put us into penal colonies segregated from the Graces of a real Church?

Let's just look at the future of traffic violators? Have you had your inspections? Do you have insurance? Did you renew your license? Are you driving 2 mph over the speed limit? Is your left speaker out?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070608/ny_traffic_fee.html?.v=1

NYC Mayor Pushes Traffic Fee Proposal Friday June 8, 2:39 pm ET By Verena Dobnik, Associated Press Writer NYC Mayor Cites 'Inconvenient Truths' of Congestion, Pollution in Pushing Traffic Fee Plan

NEW YORK (AP) -- Traffic congestion and devastating pollution are among the "inconvenient truths" of our age and could be eased by imposing pay-to-drive fees on Manhattan motorists, Mayor Michael Bloomberg told a legislative panel Friday.

Bloomberg, who normally takes the subway to work, told the lawmakers he got stuck in traffic three times on his way to the special hearing.

His remarks were greeted by a roaring ovation from supporters who included environmentalists in bright green T-shirts handing out fresh green apples before the hearing.

"The threats to our city, and our planet, are inconvenient truths that we can no longer avoid facing, and that we can no longer wait for Washington to confront," Bloomberg said, referring to the title of Al Gore's Oscar-winning global warming documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth."

Under Bloomberg's proposal, cars entering Manhattan south of 86th Street would be charged $8 per day, and trucks $21. Under a three-year pilot program, the fees would be collected only during the worst traffic hours, from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Two major roadways flanking the east and west sides of Manhattan, FDR Drive and the West Side Highway, would be exempt.

Some lawmakers in the city's outer boroughs and bedroom communities do not support the so-called "congestion pricing," saying it would punish many drivers.

"This is a tax on middle-class people," said state Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, a Westchester Democrat who chairs one of the committees that held the joint hearing. "This will stop the Chevrolets from coming in, not the BMWs."

The mayor's plan got a boost Thursday from Gov. Eliot Spitzer and U.S. Transportation Secretary Mary Peters, who announced that New York is one of nine semifinalists to receive federal funds to fight traffic jams.

"This plan would keep the city that never sleeps from becoming the city that never moves," Peters said of the proposed fees.

The city would become the first in the nation to adopt a congestion pricing plan of this magnitude. The proposal is similar to a system that London has used since 2003, and government officials there say it has significantly reduced congestion.

It is part of an ambitious series of environmental proposals from Bloomberg in recent months, including converting the entire taxi fleet to hybrid vehicles, replacing light bulbs with more efficient ones and a goal of a 30 percent reduction in carbon emissions by 2030.

Backers say the fee plan would cut traffic jams and pollution while generating money for mass transit projects -- nearly $400 million in its first year alone.

Environmentalists have applauded the plan, but it would have to be enacted by the state Legislature, making the support of lawmakers from outer boroughs and bedroom communities around New York critical to its success.

The mayor pointed out that on Friday, like many warm-weather, high traffic workdays in New York, a state air-stagnation advisory was in effect not only for Manhattan, but also for surrounding counties on Long Island and Westchester County.

In addition, Bloomberg said, four times as many New Yorkers are hospitalized for asthma as the national average.

He said such facts are "a reminder that when idling cars and trucks stack up on our roads and at our tunnels and bridges, they produce more than just ulcers and hair-trigger tempers," Bloomberg said. "They pump deadly pollution into the air that we and our children breathe."

In addition, he said, the hours lost in traffic rob the economy of work hours.

Bloomberg said the plan has the support of more than 80 civic, labor and political groups. The plan also appears to be gaining momentum from influential state leaders in Albany.

Spitzer said he would urge lawmakers to support the plan so that New York would qualify for the federal funds outlined by Peters on Thursday.

The other cities competing for a total of $1.1 billion in federal funds are Atlanta, Dallas, Denver, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Miami, San Diego, San Francisco and Seattle. Peters said that up to five cities will split the money, and the winners will be announced by mid-August.

Spitzer said New York would ask for $500 million -- almost half the federal money that will be available under the Department of Transportation's Urban Partnership program. Under the plan, a network of cameras would capture license plate numbers and either charge a driver's existing commuter account or generate a bill to be paid each time.

Commuters who already pay a toll to come into Manhattan via tunnels and bridges could apply that against the new fee. For example, a person already paying a $6 toll to go through the Lincoln Tunnel would be charged an extra $2 under the plan.

Senior citizens who oppose the plan held a news conference at a Manhattan hospital, one of the places they said they must sometimes drive to.

"I had a friend I had to take in for radiation every day," said Robert Goldberg, of Brooklyn. "There was no way he could take the subway."
115 posted on 06/09/2007 11:01:43 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: muawiyah; NYer
A wise leader would have said, "I'm happy that this troubled young woman is able to serve justice under the aid of her natural family. I want all other such prisoners the same opportunity. Perhaps we can find volunteer citizens who will donate money to pay for the tracking anklet that similar obviously-not-really-dangerous-to-society traffic violators but repeat offenders will wear."

Rev Al Sharpton is not this wise leader. He does not believe in Mercy.

Because of comments that poke at the obvious fact that a white girl who's family has a lot of money are going through a tough time, Rev Al Sharpton chose not to extend similar mercy to other families who are not as rich or white, but to demand "justice" for all law breakers. Yes, she broke the law several times. Yes, she deserved jail time AND she did, in fact, go to jail. But there are worse criminals than repeat traffic violators.

When words are spoken of your or my appearance or economic viability in such a manner, they aren't meant as means to find common ground. These words divide. When Rev Al Sharpon expresses words like this, they are a threat of violence--especially in cities known to have violent riots when the population is stirred up over supposed "racial" differences.



For example, Rodney King & OJ Simpson.

Because Rev Al Sharpton choose to divide us, he is using natural difference as unnatural divisions. Rev Al Sharpton has split from the message of Christianity. He is also unqualified as a leader who might bring others to a common goal. He is self-serving with the interest of holding others to a standard that he won't accept for himself. He holds us prisoner to our appearance and economic background.

What is race, Mr. Sharpton?

If a man as white as a lily leaf in a snow storm conceive a child with a woman as dark as chocolate during a moonless midnight...what is the race of the child? Human race, Mr. Sharpton. The baby is a human of the race "human". It's not about appearance and neither is Justice or serving the law.

If a rich woman falls in love with the young penniless man cleaning her pool and they have a child, how different is that child from a very poor couple producing children with no inheritance, Mr. Sharpton? How different is that child from a couple so rich they don't know what "poor" means, Mr. Sharpton? The answer, Mr. Sharpton is that there's no difference. Children are children. It's not about economic background but about Natural Law and the nurture of Natural Family over artificial environment of self-imposed and godless society. What and who are you serving, Al?

But because you are not merciful, Mr. Sharpton, comments like yours from a well media-represented threatening inciteful position, you have guaranteed ZERO sympathy for your "constituents" of the supposed background you seek to represent. In fact, the very super wealthy you have managed to isolate from their family are in a very strong position to not buy the tracking anklets that they could have funded for obviously not-so-dangerous traffic violators, but will fund the "needed" prisons for "justice" that you, Mr. Sharpton, want EVERYONE to serve.

Congratulations Al. You could have guaranteed family time with slightly restricted freedoms for troubled individuals in our society. You could have extended mercy for people who need the loving bonds of family and not meaningless numbing wards of the state. But instead, you shackle people to an overburdened system. This story of a troubled young girl that burns easily in the sun who also comes from a hard working self-made super rich family wasn't about "justice". This story had to be about you, Al.

And here's your legacy, Al. You've managed to put an extremely wealthy family in the position of looking upon anyone with a slightly darker tan and with a slightly smaller paycheck (which is almost all of us) as a potential predator who will jealously enslave them to the whim of a mob and an overtaxed secular social machine. Not only are the Hilton's super wealthy, Al, but they make HOTELS. How hard is it for the Hiltons to shift gears from making opulent hotels to slightly higher than the lowest bidder prisons to house ALL the law breakers like the people you think you represent, Al?

Satan, wasn't this in your plan from the beginning?

Do you think that we wouldn't see through it? Are traffic fines going to be opportunity for you to split natural families and put us into penal colonies segregated from the Graces of a real Church?

Let's just look at the future of traffic violators? Have you had your inspections? Do you have insurance? Did you renew your license? Are you driving 2 mph over the speed limit? Is your left speaker out?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070608/ny_traffic_fee.html?.v=1

NYC Mayor Pushes Traffic Fee Proposal Friday June 8, 2:39 pm ET By Verena Dobnik, Associated Press Writer NYC Mayor Cites 'Inconvenient Truths' of Congestion, Pollution in Pushing Traffic Fee Plan

NEW YORK (AP) -- Traffic congestion and devastating pollution are among the "inconvenient truths" of our age and could be eased by imposing pay-to-drive fees on Manhattan motorists, Mayor Michael Bloomberg told a legislative panel Friday.

Bloomberg, who normally takes the subway to work, told the lawmakers he got stuck in traffic three times on his way to the special hearing.

His remarks were greeted by a roaring ovation from supporters who included environmentalists in bright green T-shirts handing out fresh green apples before the hearing.

"The threats to our city, and our planet, are inconvenient truths that we can no longer avoid facing, and that we can no longer wait for Washington to confront," Bloomberg said, referring to the title of Al Gore's Oscar-winning global warming documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth."

Under Bloomberg's proposal, cars entering Manhattan south of 86th Street would be charged $8 per day, and trucks $21. Under a three-year pilot program, the fees would be collected only during the worst traffic hours, from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Two major roadways flanking the east and west sides of Manhattan, FDR Drive and the West Side Highway, would be exempt.

Some lawmakers in the city's outer boroughs and bedroom communities do not support the so-called "congestion pricing," saying it would punish many drivers.

"This is a tax on middle-class people," said state Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, a Westchester Democrat who chairs one of the committees that held the joint hearing. "This will stop the Chevrolets from coming in, not the BMWs."

The mayor's plan got a boost Thursday from Gov. Eliot Spitzer and U.S. Transportation Secretary Mary Peters, who announced that New York is one of nine semifinalists to receive federal funds to fight traffic jams.

"This plan would keep the city that never sleeps from becoming the city that never moves," Peters said of the proposed fees.

The city would become the first in the nation to adopt a congestion pricing plan of this magnitude. The proposal is similar to a system that London has used since 2003, and government officials there say it has significantly reduced congestion.

It is part of an ambitious series of environmental proposals from Bloomberg in recent months, including converting the entire taxi fleet to hybrid vehicles, replacing light bulbs with more efficient ones and a goal of a 30 percent reduction in carbon emissions by 2030.

Backers say the fee plan would cut traffic jams and pollution while generating money for mass transit projects -- nearly $400 million in its first year alone.

Environmentalists have applauded the plan, but it would have to be enacted by the state Legislature, making the support of lawmakers from outer boroughs and bedroom communities around New York critical to its success.

The mayor pointed out that on Friday, like many warm-weather, high traffic workdays in New York, a state air-stagnation advisory was in effect not only for Manhattan, but also for surrounding counties on Long Island and Westchester County.

In addition, Bloomberg said, four times as many New Yorkers are hospitalized for asthma as the national average.

He said such facts are "a reminder that when idling cars and trucks stack up on our roads and at our tunnels and bridges, they produce more than just ulcers and hair-trigger tempers," Bloomberg said. "They pump deadly pollution into the air that we and our children breathe."

In addition, he said, the hours lost in traffic rob the economy of work hours.

Bloomberg said the plan has the support of more than 80 civic, labor and political groups. The plan also appears to be gaining momentum from influential state leaders in Albany.

Spitzer said he would urge lawmakers to support the plan so that New York would qualify for the federal funds outlined by Peters on Thursday.

The other cities competing for a total of $1.1 billion in federal funds are Atlanta, Dallas, Denver, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Miami, San Diego, San Francisco and Seattle. Peters said that up to five cities will split the money, and the winners will be announced by mid-August.

Spitzer said New York would ask for $500 million -- almost half the federal money that will be available under the Department of Transportation's Urban Partnership program. Under the plan, a network of cameras would capture license plate numbers and either charge a driver's existing commuter account or generate a bill to be paid each time.

Commuters who already pay a toll to come into Manhattan via tunnels and bridges could apply that against the new fee. For example, a person already paying a $6 toll to go through the Lincoln Tunnel would be charged an extra $2 under the plan.

Senior citizens who oppose the plan held a news conference at a Manhattan hospital, one of the places they said they must sometimes drive to.

"I had a friend I had to take in for radiation every day," said Robert Goldberg, of Brooklyn. "There was no way he could take the subway."
116 posted on 06/09/2007 11:02:02 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: Yardstick

I was at the Caesers Palace shin dig where she sang and had her debut album bash. In fact ,she signed my tickets. She is racist,spoiled and out of reality. But she is a mirror copy of her mom,who is a classic whore,loser.


117 posted on 06/09/2007 11:02:02 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Threatening riots?

BRATTICUS

BRATTICUS

BRATTICUS

118 posted on 06/09/2007 11:02:32 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: Major Matt Mason
Agreed. I would love to see a news network that excludes entertainment news from their coverage. It isn't real news, anyway, and would allow more time for coverage of the news that truly matters to people's lives. Fox could have been this network, but sadly it is going downhill.

Are you a psychic or something? I rant about this at least once a day to my husband! He says we should just get rid of the TV, since there's nothing on there of any substance anyway.

I'm with you - I long for a REAL news network - for REAL adults that don't watch Entertainment Tonight. FOX started out good - but I don't watch it much anymore - too fluffy for my taste.

119 posted on 06/09/2007 11:02:57 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: altura
I make it a point never to let reality intrude upon my worldview, thank you very much.

= )

120 posted on 06/09/2007 11:02:58 AM PDT by Hoplite
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