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To: GourmetDan
You're welcome. I gave a definition from the AHD1 and found that it applies to both evolution and intelligent design. If that is the definition that editor-surveyor had in mind, then I have no qualms stating that evolution satisfies that definition for me.

And that ID is just as 'scientific' as evolution.

Now, I have not admitted anything like this. Oh, no.

Let's once again visit the American Heritage Dictionary. They define 'scientific' as an adjective meaning "Of, relating to, or employing the methodology of science"

The core of intelligent design ideology - our origin is best explained by divine intervention - cannot be observed, much less tested. As Kitzmiller v. Dover demonstrated, for intelligent design to be considered 'scientific,' the scientific method would have to be expanded to include the supernatural. There's a reason why no one has claimed James Randi's million dollars; supernatural phenomena disappears in the lab.

Whether you believe in intelligent design or not is none of my business. But, if it can't be observed or tested, it's not scientific.

1 Religion - A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

24 posted on 06/09/2007 5:59:47 AM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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To: Abd al-Rahiim
"Now, I have not admitted anything like this. Oh, no."

Well, not explicity no. You never will. It will come down to parsing planck particles, however.

"Whether you believe in intelligent design or not is none of my business. But, if it can't be observed or tested, it's not scientific."

And using those same criteria, neither are the evolutionary steps that believe, unless you define them in terms that are consistent with ID.

It's a vicious circle and most naturalists cannot understand it.

27 posted on 06/09/2007 7:57:33 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: Abd al-Rahiim
"The core of intelligent design ideology - our origin is best explained by divine intervention - cannot be observed, much less tested."

Please provide a reference showing that this is the core of ID.

While you're at it, please provide a reference showing that our origin is best explained by natural processes - observable and testable, according to your own requirements for ID.

28 posted on 06/09/2007 7:59:35 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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