[RussP]

Hey, thanks for saving me a lot of time debunking this bozo’s baloney!

If you have more time, why don’t you try to explain to these ignoramuses that the first living cell has not and *cannot* be explained by purely natural, unguided mechanisms. That means that every single living cell in the world is essentially not just “evidence” of ID but *proof*.

Oh, but “ID cannot be observed,” they confidently (and cluelessly) assert. They might as well declare that the nose on their face “cannot be observed.”

I know I shouldn’t throw around some of the insults that I do, but the incredible ignorance that these guys proudly and arrogantly exhibit just rubs me wrong.

Let me just end with a relevant quote:

“An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.” —Francis Crick, co-discoverer of DNA and Nobel Laureate

[antiRepublicrat]

why don’t you try to explain to these ignoramuses that the first living cell has not and *cannot* be explained by purely natural, unguided mechanisms

Let's go back a bit to all the times where people said things couldn't be explained by natural mechanisms and were later shown wrong due to scientific progress.

“An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.” —Francis Crick, co-discoverer of DNA and Nobel Laureate

This is a common example of Intelligent Design dishonesty, always taking little snippets completely out of context to support your arguments. I know you guys pass these nuggets around in order to further the cause, but someone should fact-check every once in a while.

The fact is that Crick later retracted the above pessimism due to scientific advances in the field. He admits he didn't anticipate such advancement when he made the speculation. Crick in fact was a proponent of evolution by natural selection and its teaching in schools. Going further, he was an agnostic who thought that science would one day mostly dispel Christian concepts of humanity.

Dishonesty, the core tactic of the Creation/ID movement.

[Abd al-Rahiim]

A few questions:

1. Can an atheist believe in intelligent design?
2. If so, is the intelligent designer he believes in the same as a Christian's?
3. Is God supernatural?
4. By extension, is an intelligent designer supernatural?
5. Is it possible for a human to be the intelligent designer responsible for the intricate complexities of life?
6. In other words, and this relates to the first question, is it possible that the Christian God is not the intelligent designer?

I would appreciate your answers. Thank you.