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Bush Fears For Nation’s Soul; Peggy Noonan Fears For Bush’s Soul
Political Mavens/Jewish World Review ^ | June 4, 2007

Posted on 06/04/2007 6:14:33 AM PDT by theothercheek

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To: A Strict Constructionist
"Can one be a good Christian and lie to the people about this issue?"

Not in my book. "Deeds, not words", as the saying goes.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

41 posted on 06/04/2007 6:46:07 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: theothercheek

The writer is either an idiot or disingenuous. Rudy Guliani is *not* a conservative.


42 posted on 06/04/2007 6:47:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Diogenesis

Beautiful, isn’t it? Why doesn’t Barbara Boxer hold up one of THOSE charts and start a debate? Better yet, why doesn’t W. peruse that information and LET IT SINK IN. These are NOT opportunities, these are PROBLEMS. GAWD, when is common sense going to make a return to those in charge?!?


43 posted on 06/04/2007 6:47:41 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: theothercheek

Assimilate? In central Florida where I live the only assimilation I’m seeing is OURS- we are BEING ASSIMILATED by a foreign culture and language.

In my neighborhood the swimming pool is full of people who play LOUD Latino? Mexican? music all day and late into the night on weekends...and not one of them speaks a word of English. 2 years ago, the pool area had a mixed group- a variety of blacks, whites and latinos. Everyone had fun together..now there is no variety- only those who will not assimilate.

Sometimes it truly does seem as though our president is not living in the same country as the rest of us...


44 posted on 06/04/2007 6:51:32 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: don-o

I disagree with President Bush on the illegal aliens issue, but Peggy No-one has turned into a real {enter your own non printable word here}. She is becoming the next ariana puffington.


45 posted on 06/04/2007 6:54:41 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: theothercheek

You mean the BUSH that could see Putin’s soul and could see it was so GOOD ?

I’ll pass on his judgement of people’s souls.


46 posted on 06/04/2007 6:58:08 AM PDT by TaxxMann (Can't put a dollar sign on citizenship - oh wait, they just did !)
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To: Joe Brower

Yup. You’d think he would have figured out that we aren’t stupid after the Harriet Myers debacle.


47 posted on 06/04/2007 7:01:08 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: theothercheek; All
But holding out for an imaginary ideal of ideological purity is not the answer. And allowing Hillary Clinton to capture the White House by staying home on Election Day is not an option.

This neatly states the dilemma we face if we choose to deal with Republican lack of backbone by sitting on our hands in the next election. The problem is how to instill some spine in our representatives without simultaneously getting something far worse. We don't want to bite our noses to spite our faces. The only effective answer I've come up with is a contribution strike against the RNC, the Republican Congressional Committee, and the Republican Senatorial Committee. As Lyndon Johnson said, "Money is the mother's milk of politics." If we cut them off NOW AND DECISIVELY, tell them exactly why we're doing it, and what they can do to get us to turn the money flow back on, then we have a good chance of defeating this immigration monstrosity and doing something about other things. The beauty of this approach is it causes immense initial pain that's likely to get attention and compliance, while avoiding permanent injury. Nothing else shows any genuine hope of being really effective.

48 posted on 06/04/2007 7:01:34 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Diogenesis

Yup. He’s lost me, that’s for sure.


49 posted on 06/04/2007 7:02:28 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: Flavius

Good luck with that.


50 posted on 06/04/2007 7:03:01 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: nonsporting

We can rally around winning the war that Bush made a hash of and we can rally around stopping Islamofascism and homegrown terrorism and we can rally around stopping runaway spending in Washington. Not every conservative is a social conservative - and this election is starting to show that. But if we succeed in creating a coalition that crosses party lines, the next candidate we support could be a conservative Dem like a Zell Miller. There’s strength in numbers.


51 posted on 06/04/2007 7:05:43 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: Joe Brower
Yes. But what the U.S. is undergoing is an illegal invasion, not "immigration".

Spot on! Prior waves of imigration were people who wanted to be part of the American dream. Not migrant workers who wave foreign flags while shouting about how rotten our country is and demanding taxpayer funded entitlements. Big difference there.

52 posted on 06/04/2007 7:07:08 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

But if you voted for Bush you voted for someone who does not appear to care about our nation’s sovereignty or the rule of law.


53 posted on 06/04/2007 7:08:47 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: alicewonders

Me too. Removed all kinds of things I had for Bush. I will save them however, because they might be worth a fortune one day due to the turn this President made and how he betrayed those of us who fought like hell for him and defended him so fiercly. Sad but true.


54 posted on 06/04/2007 7:10:29 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Double Tap

In her original article, Peggy Noonan never mentioned Rooty, this piece has been skewed to help Rooty. Shameless.


55 posted on 06/04/2007 7:11:04 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Moose4

Conservatives will never “take back” the GOP because as Bush has so clearly demonstrated it was never really ours to begin with. Any GOP candidate who wants to win our votes just tells us what we want to hear then does what he damn well pleases when he doesn’t need us anymore. Conservatives in the Republican party are like Blacks in the Dem party. Taken for granted, then discarded as soon as it’s expedient. This has to stop.


56 posted on 06/04/2007 7:11:59 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: Badeye

Among the nine dwarves who are running, she will win the nomination. And she has the money and the political organization to crush anyone who opposes her - unless that candidate can match her in both.


57 posted on 06/04/2007 7:13:46 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: A Strict Constructionist; jveritas
"Can one be a good Christian and lie to the people about this issue?"

I've read a lot of the books by Corrie Ten Boom, who hid Jews in Holland during WW2. Sometimes to do so, she had to lie to the authorities.

In this case, I don't think Bush is acting on Christian Principles, but obtaining cheap labor for his buddies. While I'm not a Bibical Scholar, I know both New and Old Testaments say a lot about "Crapth Not on ye nations poor, for thou willist offend me and I will go a smothing and such".

58 posted on 06/04/2007 7:14:21 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Those BP guys will do more prison time than many convicted Japanese war criminals ...thanks Bush!)
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To: cripplecreek

A corporation. On illegal immigration, the Reps are just as corrup as the Dems. Maybe more so.


59 posted on 06/04/2007 7:14:40 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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To: tumblindice

This just about says it all, thanks.


60 posted on 06/04/2007 7:15:17 AM PDT by theothercheek ("Unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." - U.S. Senate Chaplain Peter Marshall)
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