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Any Waco, McLennan County Texas Freepers out there?

Posted on 06/02/2007 8:47:35 AM PDT by Mamzelle

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1 posted on 06/02/2007 8:47:36 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

I live in McLennan County and have never heard any controversy about his ranch staff. When they first moved to Crawford talk was that a nearby rancher was doing land and livestock management and rumor was most of their household staff had been with them for years. I don’t know if that’s still the case. The grapevine works overtime here and there would probably be gossip if anything were not above board. The Bush’s are known as considerate neighbors who contribute financially to local causes and organizations.


2 posted on 06/02/2007 8:56:36 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: LA Woman3

Ping to Crawford questions!


3 posted on 06/02/2007 8:57:29 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: McLynnan
Last year Bush put out a statement about his "inspired" he was by one of his servants. A lot of the nobless oblige types get sentimental about their house help--sort of Scarlett O'Hara prairie style. This particular woman was a nanny to the twins...when they were still in their *teens*, for crying out loud. Now she picks up after the WH dogs and is such a treasure and an inspiration.

But--when asked if she had ever been in the country illegally, Bush didn't answer.

4 posted on 06/02/2007 9:01:21 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

I live in the area not far from Crawford..I would say no he has none working for him..He has his own crew and that does not include illegals...Don’t ask me how I know this because if I told I might have to kill you!!!And that was said being funny...


5 posted on 06/02/2007 9:04:10 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Beth528
Considering that Linda Chavez got the sack for hiring an illegal--it'd sure be bad form if the Bushes got caught doing likewise.

From my own years in Texas, it was a rare aristocrat indeed who didn't have a few wetbacks for their high-maintenance mansions.

6 posted on 06/02/2007 9:09:07 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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Believe me when I tell you there is none..He has his own crew and has for a very long time..I am not saying he has no Mexicans working at the ranch but they are very legal..ask anyone in Crawford..They all love the Bushes(well most of them)but they also feel the same about illegals as we do...


7 posted on 06/02/2007 9:20:09 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Mamzelle
Your attitude is music to the Bush bashing left or perhaps you are a troll and part of the Bush bashing left
8 posted on 06/02/2007 9:21:38 AM PDT by PolishProud (A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants)
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To: Mamzelle
This particular woman was a nanny to the twins

Jimmy Carter used a murderer as a nanny for Amy.

9 posted on 06/02/2007 9:21:52 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PolishProud
I want that legislation to die. The president I voted for, prayed for, donated to, trusted with a war--turns out he really didn't want to be President of the United States. Instead, he wants to be First Lady of Mexico.

Yesterday he hinted that he's going to start calling Joe Sixpack (and Joe's son in the service, GI Joe) "bigots" for opposing this legislative monstrosity. Little Lord Lindsey of Carolina has already tested the waters.

I resent it highly.

That's my attitude--from the "Bush-bashing" right that he doesn't want in the GOP any more. This legislation, and HIS attitude, is the dealbreaker for this conservative. I'm about to go Independent.

10 posted on 06/02/2007 9:27:08 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

http://www.rightgrrl.com/99grrls/February/Lisa_P/chavez.shtml


11 posted on 06/02/2007 9:30:32 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: McLynnan
Ditto to what McLynnan said. I’ve been in the general area for most of my life and have a lot of friends around there and this has never come up. When I went to a fund raising bbq back in 2000 at his ranch, most of the people that worked there seemed like college kids (ones actually working serving and cleaning up) those could have been volunteers for his campaign though..

I’m sure if he had even the slightest illegality in how his ranch was run, we would have heard it a long time ago from the dems..

12 posted on 06/02/2007 9:35:55 AM PDT by mnehring (Fred Thompson\Zell Miller '08 - Give the Dems and Terrorists Hell !!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mamzelle
It makes me wonder if his own personal servants and workers at his ranch are all fully legal...

You've got to be kidding me. After six years in the Presidency and winning election twice, don't you think that the democrat attack machine wouldn't have fully researched this? I'll bet James Carville personally has dosiers on every Bush employee going back decades.

13 posted on 06/02/2007 9:46:22 AM PDT by narby
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Maybe they didn't have the nerve to ask the question in the first place. "Has your family ever knowingly hired an undocumented worker?"

I don't know if you've lived in Texas, but I lived in El Paso during the Carter administration when immigration laws were enforced--lots of nice Anglo ladies had full-time maids and nannies and yardmen. They ignored the law until their cars got impounded for transporting illegals.

Not many patricians and aristocrats resisted the temptation to be waited on and cleaned up after by cheap and humble help. And I certainly don't recall any claim by the Bushes that they "never" did such a thing--

And if such a fact came to light, it'd put the seal of doom on any amnesty effort.

14 posted on 06/02/2007 9:53:33 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle; mnehrling; Beth528

Actually their house is in no way a mansion. It’s a country ranch type home, built to be “green” and local trade people who have been there say it and its furnishings are unpretentious. In my opinion you are barking up the wrong tree and would be hard pressed to find any negative opinions about them in McLennan County other than the Sheehan type nutjobs at the Peace House. Like Beth I’ve heard many personal anecdotes about the Bushes but can’t repeat them or identify the people who told me. Those active with the McLennan County GOP keep their mouths shut about contact with the Bushes. Locals have tried to protect their privacy and allow them a private home life. Anybody here who has had personal experience with the Bushes or their staff speaks highly of them.


15 posted on 06/02/2007 9:57:03 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: McLynnan
Yep, his house is only four bedrooms and the Ranch isn’t a big working ranch like 6666... I’m sure folks outside Texas don’t understand that a lot of our ‘ranches’ don’t have a million head of cattle and thousands of cowboys.. :->
16 posted on 06/02/2007 9:59:37 AM PDT by mnehring (Fred Thompson\Zell Miller '08 - Give the Dems and Terrorists Hell !!!!!!!!!!)
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To: McLynnan; Mamzelle
Agree!!!

Mamzelle,you may want to check out the liberal I would say you would hit pay dirt with the illegal employees...If you need any other information about the Bushes go to Crawford and the people there are very friendly and will not tell you a thing but the truth...which conserning Laura and George will be all good..

18 posted on 06/02/2007 10:09:30 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Beth528
I wonder if anyone has ever asked the Bush family about any hiring of illegals through their long history. It might be a good question to ask Tony Snow--heck, I get the impression he doesn't think housework ought to be done by GOP men. And certainly not their wives!

The problem of anyone making such a query would be the whole institution of indenturement in Texas. The reporters themselves wouldn't ask it, because they're a part of it. And then they might have to ask liberal Texans the same question.

Sort of mutual embarrassment and protection. Don't ask, don't tell.

But just somebody asking that question in public would open up a lot of debate.

Picture Ann Coulter and Tony Snow--"Do you think the Bush family, or all the Bush families, ever hired illegal help?"

Now, how in the world would Tony respond? He knows the culture, and knows he can't make a spluttering righteous denial. He also can't say, "I don't know"--because that would indicate he does not have confidence. Tony would also sweat the next question--"Have you ever hired illegals?"

It'd be a whole new way to frame the debate. And it'd be a winner for killing shamnesty.

19 posted on 06/02/2007 10:22:03 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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Heck--I'm thinking small.

What about McCain's domestic arrangements? Have you seen pictures of his grand palace in Arizona?

He's part of the motor behind this catastrophe of legislation. Wonder if all his help is legal? Wonder if it's always been legal?

Is there an AZ ping list?

20 posted on 06/02/2007 10:33:04 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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