The First Shot(My opinion) Frame 203
Fine. Start the clock on a 2.3 second cycle of the rifles action [the W.C. 'best speed'] correlated with the Z-film camera speed of 18.3 frames per second. Say 42 frames to cycle the action. The second shot could not occur before frame 245.
The 2nd Shot(My opinion). Frame 227
Again, fine, - if this is when the second shot occurred, we would have to backtrack at least 42 frames, placing the first shot at frame 185, minimum. - And as, according to the Report, Oswalds view was blocked by the tree from frame 166 to 190, this presents a timeline problem.
Frame 228 Both men react. Kennedy is clearly hit, Connaly his right shoulder slumping is about to react from a collaped lung.
Kennedy will be locked in this position until the fatal headshot. There is a medical term for this position after an injury to the spine.
I will find the name if you'd like.
No need, as [according to your own first shot at Frame 203 timeline] it is still a full 10 Frames before a shot could be made by even the fastest expert rifleman the Commission could find.
I have walked the entire length and area in the Zapruder film. We are talking maybe 30-40 yards of distance for all this to happen. There is a gentle slope aweay from the TSBD and accounts for much of the angles of fire into the limo carrying the entourage.
I too have walked the area, and doubt that the angle of the first shot could ricochet [off a tree?] to strike the curb down by the underpass.
Three shots. All by Oswald. Acting alone.
Yep, three spaced and aimed shots [2.3 seconds apart, min.] are your problem. - Obviously, you can't correlate them to the Z-films timeline, so they remain the problem, as it is virtually impossible that Oswald, acting alone, pulled them off.
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The Kid comments:
Your error in calculation (whether deliberate or unintentional) is the problem here.
How amusing that you fail to show my "error" of calculation. I've show above, in mathematical detail, how the rifles action cannot be cycled in less than 42 frames of Z-film time, and how that time constraint simply does not fit in with what the film shows.
Feel free to show us how it would.
We've gone over this with you plenty of times, tpaine. The first shot was ready in waiting and started the clock. The second shot was taken at the instant Oswald cycled the action and aimed in. He took his time for the third shot. Approximately 8.3 to 8.5 seconds in total. It's plenty of time to cycle two shots with a free trigger pull to start the timer.
The proof is in the details.
At frame Frame 228 Pistolshot claims "- Both men react. Kennedy is clearly hit, Connaly his right shoulder slumping is about to react from a collaped lung. This is where CE399 went through both men. -"
Now the rifle must be cycled, - once to miss and hit the curb, and again to hit JFK at frame 313.
That is 85 frames, and cycling the action twice takes 84, - by an expert.
It's been replicated by the WC investigators, the HCSA investigators, the FBI, the military, NRA High Power competition shooters of several ranks, and private individuals.
So you all claim. Not a one of those "replicated" shoots have been done with enough detail to be credible to reasonable observers. Show me your proof that they have.
Equalled or bettered in time and terminal performance. Over and over and over and over and over. You just continue to maintain the old 'Oswald couldn't possibly have shot that fast!'
And you just continue to maintain the old 'Oswald couldn't possibly have had a problem shooting that fast!' Over and over and over and over and over.
That's all we can really say to you on this issue. Your numbers are just wrong.
You haven't even added up the numbers, - because they don't fit Specters theory.
I find it sad that you somehow feel compelled to defend that man and that Report. - Me, - I'd find it easier to defend Reno about Waco.
Now the rifle must be cycled, - once to miss and hit the curb, and again to hit JFK at frame 313."
1. See, now this is probably the first part where you're all messed up. You're saying that Oswald cycled the Carcano and missed the motorcade and this bullet struck the curb?
2. You do know that we've (Shooter 2.5 and I, anyway) adopt the 8.5 second timeline proven by Posner with the out of spec calibration of Zapruder's Bell & Howell camera? Are you or are you not aware of that?
Do you believe that Zapruder's early 1960s-vintage home movie camera was tuned like a Swiss chronograph to match time in real life? Are you aware of any testimony covering this in any investigation of the Kennedy Assassination? Zapruder was not using a Sony Handicam from Best Buy. Analog, tpaine, not digital.
We're saying (and have been saying for quite some time here on FR) that the Warren Commission was essentially correct in their final assessment of the lone gunman/single bullet theory. Your theory that Oswald couldn't have made the shots based on timing and as a result that the Warren Commission is incorrect (and presumably, proves evidence of conspiracy) rests fully on the potential for mistake that the WC assumed in that Zapruder's camera matches real time precisely. Either that, or you're trying to play off one FR poster's discrepancies in deductions (Pistolshot) against others (Mine and Shooter's) as lending weight to your theory, or both. Either way, that's flimsy.
You know what? Never mind all that. Just tell us where your magic bullet is. That one that killed Kennedy that Oswald didn't fire.