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To: tpaine

The proper timeline shows that Oswald had plenty of time and that it was not a hard shot for him, and he only actually scored 1 out of 3 of the headshots he was attempting.

When you position the jump seat in the limo correctly, (as has been done with computer recreations) the bullet wounds line up perfectly, there is no “magic bullet”.

There’s a reason the bullet wounds line up, the only place they could have come from is the Book Depository, the wounds line up properly and the damage done to the bullets and people are all as they should be. There is nothing mysterious about anything that happened.

Every shred of REAL evidence (using todays technology too) shows the only place the bullets could have come from to produce the damage they did was from Oswalds perch. The myths about the quality of the rifle and the quality of the shooter and the skill required are all MYTHS.

The MYTH of the magic bullet has been debunked numerous times too, for anyone who cares to listen. Oswald is as guilty as OJ is you bother to do some reading/research. I’ll probably read Bugliosi’s book, 1600 pages is quite a task, but what he’s done is put 1600 pages together of things that I’ve already read about, there will be little new for ME in the book.

For the rest of you who believe in a conspiracy there will be PLENTY of new information for YOU.


143 posted on 06/03/2007 11:27:44 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob; y'all
You've read the Bugliosi book? How does he reconcile the timeline problem I've outlined in post #16?

The proper timeline shows that Oswald had plenty of time and that it was not a hard shot for him, and he only actually scored 1 out of 3 of the headshots he was attempting.

From that answer it is obvious you haven't read either the new book, my post 16, or Specters theory in the Report.

When you position the jump seat in the limo correctly, (as has been done with computer recreations)

Garbage in, garbage out. "Positioning seats" in re-creations is garbage theory.

the bullet wounds line up perfectly, there is no ?magic bullet?.There?s a reason the bullet wounds line up, the only place they could have come from is the Book Depository, the wounds line up properly and the damage done to the bullets and people are all as they should be. There is nothing mysterious about anything that happened.

Yep, that's what you pro-report mavens say happened. No proof, but you insist. - Why?

Every shred of REAL evidence (using todays technology too) shows the only place the bullets could have come from to produce the damage they did was from Oswalds perch. The myths about the quality of the rifle and the quality of the shooter and the skill required are all MYTHS. The MYTH of the magic bullet has been debunked numerous times too, for anyone who cares to listen. Oswald is as guilty as OJ is you bother to do some reading/research.

How can I dispute such finely honed logic? Yep, its all MYTHS..

I?ll probably read Bugliosi?s book, 1600 pages is quite a task, but what he?s done is put 1600 pages together of things that I?ve already read about, there will be little new for ME in the book. For the rest of you who believe in a conspiracy there will be PLENTY of new information for YOU.

There is no proved conspiracy.
We only have the facts as put forth in the Report, and as we can see from the Z-film. They don't add up enough to prove Oswald was 'a lone gunman'.
Apparently, Bugliosi's book has no new facts.

The case remains open.

147 posted on 06/03/2007 12:19:37 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: word_warrior_bob

This is the first portion of the conclusions of the Warren Commission.

1. The shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connally were fired from the sixth floor window at the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository. This determination is based upon the following:

(a) Witnesses at the scene of the assassination saw a rifle being fired from the sixth-floor window of the Depository Building, and some witnesses saw a rifle in the window immediately after the shots were fired.

(b) The nearly whole bullet found on Governor Connally’s stretcher at Parkland Memorial Hospital and the two bullet fragments found in the front seat of the Presidential limousine were fired from the 6.5_millimeter Mannlicher_Carcano rifle found on the sixth floor of the Depository Building to the exclusion of all other weapons.

(c) The three used cartridge cases found near the window on the sixth floor at the southeast corner of the building were fired from the same rifle which fired the above_described bullet and fragments, to the exclusion of all other weapons.

(d) The windshield in the Presidential limousine was struck by a bullet fragment on the inside surface of the glass, but was not penetrated.

(e) The nature of the bullet wounds suffered by President Kennedy and Governor Connally and the location of the car at the time of the shots establish that the bullets were fired from above and behind the Presidential limousine, striking the President and the Governor as follows:

(1) President Kennedy was first struck by a bullet which entered at the back of his neck and exited through the lower front portion of his neck, causing a wound which would not necessarily have been lethal. The President was struck a second time by a bullet which entered the right_rear portion of his head, causing a massive and fatal wound.

(2) Governor Connally was struck by a bullet which entered on the right side of his back and traveled downward through the right side of his chest, exiting below his right nipple. This bullet then passed through his right wrist and entered his left thigh where it caused a superficial wound.

(f) There is no credible evidence that the shots were fired from the Triple Underpass, ahead of the motorcade, or from any other location.
2. The weight of the evidence indicates that there were three shots fired.

3. Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President’s throat also caused Governor Connally’s wounds. However, Governor Connally’s testimony and certain other factors have given rise to some difference of opinion as to this probability but there is no question in the mind of any member of the Commission that all the shots which caused the President’s and Governor Connally’s wounds were fired from the sixth floor window of the Texas School Book Depository.

4. The shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connally were fired by Lee Harvey Oswald. This conclusion is based upon the following:

(a) The Mannlicher_Carcano 6.5_millimeter Italian rifle from which the shots were fired was owned by and in the possession of Oswald.

(b) Oswald carried this rifle into the Depository Building on the morning of November 22, 1963.

(c) Oswald, at the time of the assassination, was present at the window from which the shots were fired.

(d) Shortly after the assassination, the Mannlicher_Carcano rifle belonging to Oswald was found partially hidden between some cartons on the sixth floor and the improvised paper bag in which Oswald brought the rifle to the Depository was found close by the window from which the shots were fired.

(e) Based on testimony of the experts and their analysis of films of the assassination, the Commission has concluded that a rifleman of Lee Harvey Oswald’s capabilities could have fired the shots from the rifle used in the assassination within the elapsed time of the shooting. The Commission has concluded further that Oswald possessed the capability with a rifle which enabled him to commit the assassination.

(f) Oswald lied to the police after his arrest concerning important substantive matters.

(g) Oswald had attempted to kill Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker (Resigned, U.S. Army) on April 10, 1963, thereby demonstrating his disposition to take human life.
5. Oswald killed Dallas Police Patrolman J. D. Tippit approximately 45 minutes after the assassination. This conclusion upholds the finding that Oswald fired the shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connally and is supported by the following:

(a) Two eyewitnesses saw the Tippit shooting and seven eyewitnesses heard the shots and saw the gunman leave the scene with revolver in hand. These nine eyewitnesses positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald as the man they saw.

(b) The cartridge cases found at the scene of the shooting were fired from the revolver in the possession of Oswald at the time of his arrest to the exclusion of all other weapons.

(c) The revolver in Oswald’s possession at the time of his arrest was purchased by and belonged to Oswald.

(d) Oswald’s jacket was found along the path of flight taken by the gunman as he fled from the scene of the killing.
6. Within 80 minutes of the assassination and 35 minutes of the Tippit killing Oswald resisted arrest at the theater by attempting to shoot another Dallas police officer.


148 posted on 06/03/2007 12:28:40 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: word_warrior_bob

I am listening to Buglosi’s book right now, I suspect there are several reasons the book is that long (this is only a guess:):

1.) There are a lot of photographs and diagrams in the book. I have only seen the book in a bookstore, but there were a lot of discolorations on the edge of the pages indicating photographs.

2.) He is retelling the events in a novelistic narrative, which is entertaining and informative, but takes more space.


151 posted on 06/03/2007 1:11:18 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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