Lack of Women in Eastern Germany Feeds Neo-Nazis

DER SPIEGEL ^ | May 31, 2007 | ????

[Atlantic Bridge]

In the US we have the same problems, only not quite to the same extent, yet.

The whole west is in decline. If we want to avoid the fate of the Romans (to pick up your proper comparison) something must happen. You are right that the Clinton's, Carter's and Schroeder's are the spearhead of decadence. Nevertheless I have to say that the "conservative" alternatives aren't much better. Merkel, a woman who was embossed in socialism, is unable to get the importance of a straight-lined society and of family values for example. Her dream is a maternal state that -as I said- takes over all duties of parents. She is talking about "patchwork families" (the most gay BS I ever heared of) and that "family is there where children are". In the meantime her CDU has turned into the most sissy party you can think of.

I really do not know how to stop this landslide of idiocy. BUT -as I said- I know that something has to be done. Otherwise our (German) society will fall apart into a small elite and into a big, dumb proletariat. This is not the society I want to live in.

The reason why this is humorous in a way is that during the Cold War the intellectuals in Germany largely blamed the US as being the barrier between better DDR-FRG relations. Was that really the case?

Of course not. BTW - I refuse to call those idiots intellectuals because they are simply not intelligent. The attendance in a univercity does not say anything about cognitive abilities. I was working long enough in univercities to know that academic titles do not say anything about being intellectual or not.

[Red6]

In general the Muslim influence in Germany is through Turks who tend to be not as radical and are more Western in their ways. Turkey is probably the most Western Muslim nation. Many of them have to some degree assimilated. However, in Germany you also have Muslim populations from North Africa, Iran, Syria, Palestinians, and others. Germany is for the radical Islamist a lower priority target. Germany is not the one involved heavily in Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Philippines, nor is Germany backing Israel, pressuring Iran like the US. Probably off the German radar screen:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21842477-2703,00.html

We still have Special Forces on the ground there. We have since 1993 conducted “dozens” of raids, snatch operations, or rocket/bombings in Somalia alone. From Germany we have sent troops to Sudan and in 2002 already but this was all over shadowed by Iraq and a media that focused all attention on this one aspect.

Germany is a Western nation, part of the global economy, and is completely dependent on trade as well as resources from other places to fuel its industry and service sector. Germany is simply playing a minor role in this orchestra when it comes to security issues. The US is the base drum; Germany is one of many violins. While still sharing all the same interests and contributing a little here or there, Germany is a low priority target. However, don’t let that fool you into believing that Iran is your friend, or that the global Jihadist appreciates your culture (They would like to slit your throat and believe me, I have had the opportunity to actually talk to some, they would do it in the blink of an eye and not think twice about it.), or even that there are not literally hundreds of people in Germany willing to blow themselves up for their 40 virgins under the right conditions.

It is Germany that is completely dependent on Middle Eastern oil, not the US, contrary to what the layperson on the German street thinks and assumes the Iraq war was about. Moreover, Germany is most likely today already in range of certain missile systems in North Africa and might very well soon have to weigh in a nuclear Iran with long range missiles. The Muslim threat does not need to blow up trains at a train station as was attempted to be a threat. They can sink your merchant ships off the coast of Somalia. Large parts of this world are simply put, “Out of control”. There are vast regions that are best described as lawless and as close to the philosophical concept of anarchy as is possible.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4409662.stm

http://english.people.com.cn/english/200108/28/eng20010828_78611.html

http://www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=49518

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/03/18/pirates.somalia/

These are not isolated incidents! Just because the media doesn’t report it, does not mean it doesn’t happen. Today the German has no “Warnehmung” of a nuclear Iran, but the threat imposed by such a state makes the aggressive but predictable Soviets pale in comparison.

The huge error in your reasoning is that you still think in terms of “as long as my world in my boundaries is OK, all is good.” Not the case! That world ended years ago. The internet, mass air travel, mass international shipping, cell phones, massive immigration and heterogeneous populations, electronic banking, long range missiles, the advent of nuclear and other weapons technology and its proliferation, have ended this paradigm all together. Thinking like this is no different than a Frenchman at the onset of WWII that thinks he’s safe because of his Maginot line.

The Islamic threat is transnational and often fueled by nations like Afghanistan pre 2001, Iran, Syria, Saddam’s Iraq (pre 2003), or Libya (pre 2003/4). Somalia, Sudan, Lebanon are also all part of this picture. This is an ideology we are in conflict with. Often rogue states like Iraq under Saddam or Kadaffi play with these elements and ideologies because after all, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” and sometimes it’s just good publicity. Saddam became very religious, at least on Arab and Iraqi TV, after 1991 (Scheinreligoes). The Islamic world is in its most basic form still largely organized around its religion, and Western ways and influence mean a loss of power to Imams, Mufti’s, Ayatollah’s, and everything else floating around in that part of the world. That’s why even in Saudi Arabia you will see massive censorship of Western media, the separation of Westerners, and even laws forbidding the discussion of religion. The royal family of Saudi Arabia needs the support of the religious leaders, not much unlike Europe in the Dark Ages where Kings ruled, but the church still held the reigns of power. Think about what the struggle between Sadr and the Iraqi government is really about! What was the Islamic revolution in Iran about when Khomeini seized power? This is an ideological struggle even within the Islamic world, even though they don’t perceive it as such. Some states meddle with these forces because it benefits them. But for the West this is in part a threat we must contend with. Avoiding the doctor because he might tell you that your prostate is enlarged is a bad idea. Likewise avoiding the Islamic problem is a serious error in reasoning. The struggle internal to the Islamic world as well as the rejection of Western life and culture are what is at the core of the conflict. Germany is in that sense no better off than the US. You’re just a lower priority target for an AQ operative. The aspects that have changed the world both technologically, in trade, and demographics affect you as well. The fuel is all over the place, the fire just hasn’t been lit! Once you press the right buttons it will, and like France you’ll understand it a lot better then.

Some in your government understand the threat very well though. Sure, all will say “Rechtsextreme” are bad, but they are not the real threat. There is a reason why at certain Polizei Razzia’s they arrest 300 Islamists in one night as was the case. They have lists of names already. There is a reason why Germany changed its “Abschieberecht”. Though subtle and not raising a flag with you, Germany has initiated numerous measures that ultimately are there to combat a specific threat. I don’t know if you realize this, but your BND monitors certain mosques. They’re not doing that because they are worried about Hooligans from GB. At your airports your screeners are checking passports for stamps indicating travel to the Middle East, or a passport from Syria, Libya etc. for a reason. You might not want to believe in an Islamic threat, but many in your intelligence understand it very well.

You have another factor working in your advantage that you don’t grasp, but realize this won’t help you against a missile from Iran for example. Germany is a highly centralized state. The ability to dive and just disappear is difficult; furthermore the laws on collection for your intelligence and even your due process are different than in the US and make the work of those dealing with these threats easier (Polizei, BfV, BND). Your courts and judges tend to be very liberal, but the ease of finding and catching a bad guy or knowing who they are is so much easier! In the US there is no national identification card. Some people don’t even have a social security card and as far as the US government is concerned don’t exist. You can easily get a job that is unreported; 12 million illegal aliens do that every day! Schools in the US and hospitals don’t turn in people even if they are uninsured and known to be here without what you call a “Aufenthaltserlaubniss”. It’s easy to get a place to stay and this will sound unbelievable, but a police officer (fully knowing this guy is probably illegal) is not allowed to ask that question when a driver is pulled over and can’t show any ID. The laws on detaining people are different as well, as are the abilities to collect………. Alone the fact that the US is such a mobile society and people are constantly moving while in Germany people tend to be more stationary makes a large difference. You have courts that are often a joke, but the ease of finding, monitoring, stopping, and catching the bad guys is a lot better in Germany and that has spared you a few times already. But it’s almost never the success that is a news worthy story.

You’ve got them in your country, but:

1. You’re not the primary target.
2. Your state systems are highly effective in monitoring and stopping them when they do want to do something.
3. While you do have them, you’re not as bad off as France or Great Britain and especially the Netherlands.

However, this is a pure internal view of the situation and only good now while you’re on the back burner not doing anything to piss them off. It’s the view only within ones boarders which is not accurate in the larger picture. A kid sitting in Indonesia years ago caused a major global problem with banking (ability). Every reason (motiv) why the Islamist hates the US applies to you as well, you’re just not the one pushing back on them.