Posted on 05/29/2007 10:15:03 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
Phfftt. Her looming re-election campaign, is more like it. She's as wishy-washy as they come.
Couldn’t agree more with ya on that point. Heavy, heavy fines for any that employee illegals. It’s gonna hurt the hell out of many pocket books up front, but the long term “pricetag” and blessing those 20-some-odd million is gonna deep-six the country, no two ways about it.
LOL! That's surely up for debate.
We, the people, know best what is right for America, Mr. P., and it looks like it isn’t you.
>...will elected official have the courage necessary to put a comprehensive immigration plan in place?<
The question is, Mr. P., will elected officials have the audacity necessary....
Not if they value their jobs.
Mr. President, how dare you foul the image of the United States flag to point your finger in our faces, to tell us we are un-American because we reject your ANTI-American flim-flam.
Please step away from the flag. You have reached a new low.
>>2) Cut off all Federal aid to any local or state juridiction which refuses to cooperate in enforcing immigration laws<<
This bill explicitly protects such local or state govts. It’s so bad we can devine what special interest groups had their say in the secret meetings. I doubt Bush has even read the bill.
I’ve heard that illegal aliens have murdered as many American citizens as troops who have died in Iraq. Over 3000 not counting 9/11! Who said the war wasn’t on American soil yet?
Why is Bush doing this?
If it’s because he really does think that he can solve the issue, he’s deluded.
If it’s because he’s been a “New World Order” Open Borders republican all along, he has mastered the big lie and he would have gotten to this early in his presidency, but 9/11 put a stop to it and he had to go chase his daddy’s chimera, Iraq.
Here’s what I think. He’s a principled man who is wrong on immigration and Iraq. He’s spent much of his time strategizing for the middle east, and, like his dad, he neglected the home front and took things for granted. He honestly felt that he could bring democracy into the middle east but he neglected to consider tribal politics in the mix, he didn’t consider how many followon forces it would take (police, nurses, doctors, infrastructure workers) in order to rebuild the country because he thought the Iraqis would do it. He ignored 2 of the more prevalent rules for understanding the middle east.
15 rules for understanding the Middle East
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1774248/posts
Rule 8: Civil wars in the Arab world are rarely about ideas like liberalism vs. communism. They are about which tribe gets to rule. So, yes, Iraq is having a civil war as we once did. But there is no Abe Lincoln in this war. Its the South vs. the South.
Rule 10: Mideast civil wars end in one of three ways: a) like the U.S. civil war, with one side vanquishing the other; b) like the Cyprus civil war, with a hard partition and a wall dividing the parties; or c) like the Lebanon civil war, with a soft partition under an iron fist (Syria) that keeps everyone in line. Saddam used to be the iron fist in Iraq. Now it is us. If we dont want to play that role, Iraqs civil war will end with A or B.
GWB really does look for that golden 3rd alternative between the horns of a dilemma, but sometimes it does not exist and it will kill you like a third rail on an electric train. GWB honestly does believe that there is a “rational middleground alternative” in the immigration debate, because he’s been neglecting domestic politics for several years, just like his dad did. When he actively pursued this rational middleground, he found few listeners in the republican party other than those who want to bring down labor rates, and he started listening to democrats. This character trait he has, where he takes his own counsel, has become a blind side that allows his enemies to drive right up alongside him. He has painted himself into a corner, just like his dad. Now he’s so worried about his legacy that he is desparate for approval from across the aisle and they will use this to hurt conservativism and prop up democratic voting ranks for 2 generations.
You didn't know this?
President Bush said this today in one of his speeches...
Just heard this on Fox News!
Over 3000 per YEAR, paperdoll. According to Cong. Poe, Congressman Steve King, and several others, they state.....
Biting the Hand That Feeds You
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1755469/posts
"There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamines that plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of meth by 80%. The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime."
BTTT for later read
It will break your heart.
Thanks for the warning....I think.
This is not the first time that Bush’s pig-headed stubborness has caused big problems for the USA.
..WE, the 'conservative critics' of this bill, are trying to scare the American public.
That breaks my heart.
Well, Guennie...if trying to wake people up to what’s happening .... is scaring the American public ... I guess that’s what a bunch of us have been doing for years.
Apparently not too successfully, either.....
Now I’m leavin’ for a bit. Ping me...to stuff. :)
Yes Ma’am, I will :)
This bill instead rewards the felons and throws a one fingered salute at everyone who is waiting in line to immigrate here legally and at the laws they are respecting and honoring.
The law of the land requires that these 20 million illegal aliens be deported. When those we elected and trusted to enforce the immigration laws of this land, tell us they have ignored enforcement of our laws for so long that enforcement is no longer possible, they are confessing to being unfit for the job.
Adjusting the laws to appease the felons, as this bill darn well does, is an invitation to anarchy.
Along with deporting these felons, oldest felons first. We need to deport every politician in DC, back to where they came from. Those who have been there the longest, first.
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