Posted on 05/25/2007 4:33:54 AM PDT by daviddennis
I find it very sad that many of my fellow conservatives are so profoundly negative about immigration, when it built our country from nothing. I think we are letting prejudice against other cultures blind us to the dynamism new immigrants and their fresh ideas represent - and yes, I mean illegal immigrants too, who risk their lives to come here.
This makes me feel profoundly sad and so I thought it was appropriate to post these quotes of our greatest leader, the one that inspired more conservatives than anyone before or since.
I don't expect people to agree - we are too overwhelmed by pessimism. But I'd like people to think about where we are going, from the warm acceptance of the Statue of Liberty to the "throw 'em out" mean spiritedness of today.
I'm not negative about immigration.
I am negative about ILLEGAL immigration. Capice?
All we wanna throw out is the illegals, and then have everybody who wants in to apply correctly. Simple as that, and I have no doubt Reagan would agree. Reagan’s position on amnesty in 1986 was incorrect but out of fairness I went along back then. Now we have hindsight and thus no excuse.
BTW, I stopped reading at the “grave mistake” remark regarding Iran-Contra.
Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
So your recommendation is to whistle a happy tune as we are lead to the guillotine?
It may improve the last five minutes...
...but the end result will be the same.
Mark Steyn commented that the legal immigration system is ossified and incompetent and incapable of processing the people that it does, let alone additional immigrants.
I applaud the illegals for defying sluggish and incompetent bureaucracy and taking things in their own hands.
Don’t we, as Americans, have a proud history of doing exactly that in our own country?
I think it’s something many of us would admire in circumstances when they applied to us or other Americans. We are a nation of bureaucracy defiers, not sheeple ... right?
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Then fix the legal immigration process.
I applaud the illegals for defying sluggish and incompetent bureaucracy and taking things in their own hands.
Those go-getters also go and get illegal documents - a felony. Many avoid paying taxes at all. They crowd into homes and lower property values. Gang membership is rife.
My first wife was a legal immigrant. They managed to come over just fine under the existing system.
Reagan pursued policies for 20+ years ago (and was wrong then).
The world has changed. And immigration has changed.
And Reagan would also say ‘Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.’
What utter garbage....your post gets the “Most Worthless post on this topic” award. I think you’ll win hands down.
You want people to break the law and take things in their own hands because the legal system is not working as efficiently as you would like. LMAO - are you ready to apply the same logic to child molestors, murderers, etc.? Given your weird sense of ethics, I wouldn’t be surprised.
That's like me offering a standing ovation to someone breaking into your home and stealing your belongings because "at least they're showing initiative".
(Admit it. You've been drinking President Bush's "special" Margarita Mix haven't you, amigo?)
Illegals have no way to fix the legal immigration process, and it does not seem to be a priority in Congress or anywhere else.
The difference between illegals coming here and someone breaking into my house is that I’m harmed by people breaking into my house.
There is plenty of economic activity in this country that could not exist without the contributions of illegals. I believe that overall the nation benefits from this.
If our social services are strained by the presence of illegals, then we should change the way our social services are run and what benefits are provided.
I would like to see hospitals that can treat people cost-effectively, schools that can actually educate people comptently at reasonable costs, and so on.
It’s funny that people who criticse our welfare and educational systems are the first to defend them when illegals come up.
What’s with that?
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One person has committed 15 bank robberies in my state - he hasn’t been captured yet. Perhaps he’s just defying the sluggish and incompetent bank withdrawal process.
So they can just break the law, eh?
The difference between illegals coming here and someone breaking into my house is that Im harmed by people breaking into my house.
We're harmed by illegals, too. Check out the hospitals closing because of unpaid medical treatment to illegals. Check out the overcrowded schools. Ask the families of those killed by illegal drunk drivers if they are not hurt by illegal immigration.
There is plenty of economic activity in this country that could not exist without the contributions of illegals. I believe that overall the nation benefits from this.
Business owners who don't want to pay the going rate for labor benefits. Everyone else gets screwed.
Farming is much more mechanized in Europe. As long as we have a ready supply of illegal labor, farmers will just rely on that.
If our social services are strained by the presence of illegals, then we should change the way our social services are run and what benefits are provided.
Well, that ain't happening, either. This bill would make matters worse.
Its funny that people who criticse our welfare and educational systems are the first to defend them when illegals come up.
I'm not defending them. But I'm paying for them.
We’re profoundly negative about immigration because there are no frontiers to colonize and because the immigrants are not becoming Americans - they’re balkanizing the culture creating stresss lines along which our society will eventually fracture. They’re more like invading barbarians than they are “immigrants.”
Also, previous waves of immigrants paid for their own services. The current wave is consuming public services and tax dollars and contributing little or nothing.
Finally, We’ve got too much multi-culti PC BS to melt them into the American culture.
Actually, I don’t even want to throw out the illegals. I want the border secured. Then we can talk about what do about the illegals already here.
After all, not all illegals are equal - we should be looking at throwing out any of them with any record of a violent crime. Other illegals might qualify as guest workers - but don’t let them bring their families over...
Finally, we need to eliminate “anchor babies.”
I would like to see hospitals that can treat people cost-effectively, schools that can actually educate people comptently at reasonable costs, and so on.
You go right ahead and get our elected officials to fix those problems AND to secure our borders and THEN we can begin the discussion of what to do about addressing illegal immigrants.
Its funny that people who criticse our welfare and educational systems are the first to defend them when illegals come up.
Whats with that?
The depth of what you don't understand, or willfully ignore, is astounding.
I'll criticize these systems 'til the cows come home. But right now our government has them in place therefore I break my back to pay for them. You really don't understand why I don't want 12 - 20 million people who aren't paying in to pile on?
Yes making an instant citizen of an illegal alien offspring is just rewarding and providing an incentive for illegal entry.
Other countries like El Salvador have tougher citizenship requirements. If I married a Salvadoran and lived there for 30 years seeking citizenship I would still be an alien seeking temporary extensions every year.
Yep, “Give me your tired, your poor”... but no more wet backs. We need to limit the amount of legal immigrants too.
If the Greens were serious about the environment instead of just using it as an issue to raise money they would be all over this issue. The environmental impact of massive illegal immigration is being ignored. Already large tracts of land (even parts of Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument) are now trashed, dirty, crime-ridden, and/or overpopulated due to steady streams of immigrants. Native born Whites have acheived ZPG but the environmentalists have not said “thank you”. Instead we’re still the bad guys somehow as the population explodes via immigration.
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