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To: the OlLine Rebel
The Battle Hymn was written by a woman using John Brown as her inspiration. John Brown WAS not above terrorizing people of all kinds who got in his way.

I agree that John Brown was scum, but...the Freeper you're helping out here claimed that the lyrics of the song promote attacks on civilians. Words mean things. He's busted.

308 posted on 05/24/2007 8:41:05 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Mr. Silverback
The battle hymn does NOT refer to John Brown, the terrorist crackpot.

It refers to a dead Union soldier of the same (rather common) name, as Mark Steyn notes:

At the time, Dr Samuel Howe was working with the Sanitary Commission of the Department of War, and one fall day he and Mrs Howe were taken to a camp a few miles from Washington for a review of General McClellan’s Army of the Potomac. That day, for the first time in her life, Julia Ward Howe heard soldiers singing:

John Brown’s body lies a-mould’ring in the grave
John Brown’s body lies a-mould’ring in the grave…

Ah, yes. The famous song about the famous abolitionist hanged in 1859 in Charlestown, Virginia before a crowd including Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson and John Wilkes Booth.

Well, no, not exactly. “By a strange quirk of history,” wrote Irwin Silber, the great musicologist of Civil War folk songs, “‘John Brown’s Body’ was not composed originally about the fiery Abolitionist at all. The namesake for the song, it turns out, was Sergeant John Brown, a Scotsman, a member of the Second Batallion, Boston Light Infantry Volunteer Militia.”

319 posted on 05/24/2007 8:53:00 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Mr. Silverback

Why do you say John Brown was scum?He was a devout fundamentalist Christian and conservative in most of his moral beliefs.
He just believed slavery was an abomination and used pretty extreme tactics to see it abolished.
Unwise in retrospect perhaps but it certainly doesn’t make him”scum”.


417 posted on 05/24/2007 11:07:19 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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