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What if La Raza Unida takes power in California and acts like the Confederacy did?

Oh, you mean send commissioners to Washington to negotiate all issues concerned with the separation like the Confederacy did? That might be OK, but I sincerely doubt La Raza Unida could afford to pay for what they want to take.

But it is not up to me. It's up to the Californians. However, if La Raza Unida agreed to take some obnoxious Hollywood actors and actresses with them I might call it a deal.

It is a sorry situation that politicians of the last 40-odd years have put us in.

1,335 posted on 05/31/2007 3:34:46 PM PDT by rustbucket (Defeat Hillary -- for the common good.)
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Oh, you mean send commissioners to Washington to negotiate all issues concerned with the separation like the Confederacy did?

No. I mean seize property and supplies, threaten citizens, and run fraudulent elections. If people in some other part of the country had behaved as the Southern rebels did, you can bet Southerners would be irate. Why the special privileges for Dixie?

Trust but Verify comes to mind.

You don't get it. Reagan was a legitimate national leader. It was only right for him to try to negotiate from a position of strength. Someone who wants out of a federal union doesn't get to give ultimatums or make demands. The terms of separation have to be sorted out at the federal level, not by force of rebellious arms.

I gather from Davis's April 29, 1861, speech to the Confederate Congress that he was busy after Lincoln's call for 75,000 troops, asking for the volunteers previously authorized by the Confederate Congress for the defense of the Confederacy.

The earlier call by Congress was something Davis could have stopped if he'd wanted to and been on the ball. If he'd used his head he would have understood what a provocation that was. Lincoln's call was a response to the war the rebels had already started. It lost unionists the Upper South, but wasn't unconstitutional or illegitimate as the earlier Confederate demand was.

1,367 posted on 06/01/2007 11:46:51 AM PDT by x
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