[MamaTexan]

Now why do you suppose that so many highly influential, even dispositive, personalities as the people who surrounded Lincoln during his campaign for the nomination in 1860 and his years helping organize the Republican Party in the West in the years immediately prior, who bulked tall and wide in Illinois and even national politics during Lincoln's administration and afterward, never got their definitive scholarly biographies written, in the course of 150 years?

A very good question, Sir, and one I've honestly never contemplated.

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When I see opinions posted that so adamantly defend Lincoln and his administration's effort to change a slave's social position from property to person, I can't help but wonder if those same posters also defend the current administration's efforts to change a denizens social position from illegal to citizen.

Then again, some folks will never even see the parallel between the two.

[mkjessup]

When I see opinions posted that so adamantly defend Lincoln and his administration's effort to change a slave's social position from property to person, I can't help but wonder if those same posters also defend the current administration's efforts to change a denizens social position from illegal to citizen. Then again, some folks will never even see the parallel between the two.

The difference is that the slaves in Lincoln's time were brought to this country against their will, AS property, and were bartered and/or sold as if they were nothing more than merchandise. That is the sad historical fact that is fortunately no longer a part of our culture.

In the case of illegal immigrants, they have entered the country ILLEGALLY, of their own volition, and nobody put chains on them and forced them to sail across an ocean to become the property of someone in America.

As I see it, the two situations have absolutely nothing in common with each other.

[beckysueb]

Lincoln and his administration's effort to change a slave's social position from property to person,

That myth has already been debunked. Lincoln didn't particularly care about slavery. It was about preserving the Union.