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Drifters Could Explain Sweet-Potato Travel
Nature ^ | 5-18-2007

Posted on 05/20/2007 4:28:04 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 05/20/2007 4:28:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

Another recent potato story:

Biotechnology Solves Debate Over Origin Of European Potato

2 posted on 05/20/2007 4:29:44 PM PDT by blam
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The Drifters
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3 posted on 05/20/2007 4:36:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam.

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4 posted on 05/20/2007 4:37:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 18, 2007.)
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To: blam
could have simply floated there on a ship

"I yam what I yam."


5 posted on 05/20/2007 4:39:45 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: SunkenCiv

There Goes My Baby...Not Under The Boardwalk or the Club at the End of the Street either. But, in the end, it is Some Kind of Wonderful.


6 posted on 05/20/2007 4:42:18 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: blam

In NZ these “sweet potato” are called kumara. They have three colors: gold, white, and red. Much nicer than what you Yanks would call “yams”: you can prepare them exactly like you would a potato. Very, very nice: deep-fried they are a delicious change from Freedom Fries. (Serve with sour cream rather than ketchup, perfect for soaking up excess beer urrrp!). Very nice mashed, or roasted with other root vegetables around the Sunday roast.

Did they arrive here from the Andes? I doubt it. Maori have been cultivating kumara ever since they arrived here in NZ, it is a hi-value hi-energy carbohydrate that would be just perfect for hooning around the South Pacific in dugout canoes. Just as likely a roving band of Maori dropped some kumara off in the Andes during one of their South Pacific cannibalizing jaunts.

The longer I live in NZ, the more convinced I am that the Maori and the Pacific Islanders were alot more clever and mobile than history has given them credit for. The mere facts that they never discovered the wheel, or metals, or a written language is quite deceiving.

Nope: I’m going to put a stake in the ground and state confidently that the Maori brought Kumara to South America, and not the other way around.


7 posted on 05/20/2007 6:30:50 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: blam

I’m just glad they got here.


8 posted on 05/20/2007 6:32:39 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: labette

ping


9 posted on 05/20/2007 6:40:17 PM PDT by null and void (Who turned the clock? (Moved on or back) and what dark chill is gathering still before the storm?)
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To: blam

> Drifters could explain sweet-potato travel
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> An unsteered ship may have delivered crop to Polynesia.

I used to be of the opinion that Maori shipwrecked ashore in New Zealand and that they did not navigate their way here, contrary to their oral traditions.

I have changed my mind, having become immersed in their culture.

They were very, very clever with their dugout ocean-going canoes, filled with fghting-fit warrior cannibals, each of them rowing under the direction of a single Navigator. They could beyond doubt navigate by stars, and they could use ocean currents like we use Interstate Hiways.

Something like stone-age Vikings, except with fewer clothes.

Beyond doubt they had regular exchange with Tahitians and Cook Islanders (the languages and physical characteristics are virtually identical) and definitely the Hawaiians (a nine hour flite from Auckland: still, the languages are strikingly similar).

The jolly “kumara” sweet potatoes would never have gotten here by drifting. If brought to NZ from South America, it would have been delivered by war canoe by a marauding raiding party of hungry Maori cannibals, who would have noticed that kumara made a nice condiment to be served with Incas, both roasted slowly in their clay hangi pits.

More likely in my view, the Maori brought kumara to South America.


10 posted on 05/20/2007 6:43:30 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: blam

I would think that this had already been settled back in the 40’s by Thor Heyerdahl.


11 posted on 05/20/2007 6:43:33 PM PDT by Roccus (Stolen tag.............The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriotism.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Maori and the Pacific Islanders were alot more clever and mobile than history has given them credit for.

What "primitive people" but the Maori were able to fight the Europeans to a standstill?

12 posted on 05/20/2007 6:44:51 PM PDT by null and void (Who turned the clock? (Moved on or back) and what dark chill is gathering still before the storm?)
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To: blam
Sweet potato ping!
13 posted on 05/20/2007 6:56:31 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("Eat yer groatcakes, Porgy!" "Heavy on the thirty weight, Mom!")
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To: null and void

Ping appreciated!


14 posted on 05/20/2007 7:05:33 PM PDT by labette (Money may not buy happiness, but it will buy politicians)
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To: labette

I thought you’d be interested...

;^)


15 posted on 05/20/2007 7:07:33 PM PDT by null and void (Who turned the clock? (Moved on or back) and what dark chill is gathering still before the storm?)
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To: Roccus
I would think that this had already been settled back in the 40’s by Thor Heyerdahl.

Thor Heyerdahl's main theory turned out to be wrong, as genetic evidence makes it obvious that current Polynesians are from Southeast Asia, not the Americas.

16 posted on 05/20/2007 7:09:55 PM PDT by Strategerist
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> Thor Heyerdahl’s main theory turned out to be wrong, as genetic evidence makes it obvious that current Polynesians are from Southeast Asia, not the Americas.

Perhaps the Southeast Asians are from Polynesia?


17 posted on 05/20/2007 7:21:38 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: blam

This is all just rumor and innuendo. My forebears were not “drifters” at all. Rather, I come from a long line of rogues, charming and rakishly handsome all, and we shall not abide this calumny!


18 posted on 05/20/2007 9:08:46 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Roccus
"I would think that this had already been settled back in the 40’s by Thor Heyerdahl."

DNA studies show that there was no gene flow from South America out into the Pacific.

19 posted on 05/20/2007 10:31:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"More likely in my view, the Maori brought kumara to South America."

Nah. The potato, all 2,000 varieties, are native to South America...no one questions that. The question is how they got to the Pacific Islands.

20 posted on 05/20/2007 10:34:40 PM PDT by blam
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