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Dobson: No way I'll vote for Rudy - Might not cast ballot at all if faced with 'Hobson's choice'
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 17, 2008

Posted on 05/17/2007 2:32:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Family advocate James Dobson, widely considered an important GOP rainmaker, says he will not vote for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani under any circumstance in the upcoming presidential elections because of his positions on abortion, domestic partnerships for homosexual couples and other moral issues.

Dobson says today in an exclusive WND column, speaking strictly as a private citizen, "I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008."

"It is an irrevocable decision," says the founder and chairman of Focus on the Family. "If given a Hobson's – Dobson's? – choice between him and Sens. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran – or if worse comes to worst – not vote for the first time in my adult life."

Dobson says, "My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else."

"How could Giuliani say with a straight face that he 'hates abortion,' while also seeking public funding for it?" Dobson asks in his commentary. "How can he hate abortion and contribute to Planned Parenthood in 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999? And how was he able for many years to defend the horrible procedure by which the brains are sucked from the heads of a viable, late-term, un-anesthetized babies? Those beliefs are philosophically and morally incompatible. What kind of man would even try to reconcile them?"

While Dobson does not endorse candidates in his role with Focus on the Family, he told a talk radio host in January he would not back Arizona Sen. John McCain for the Republican nomination.

"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," he said.

In March, Dobson drew criticism after a U.S. News and World Report story said Dobson "appeared to throw cold water on a possible presidential bid by former Sen. Fred Thompson while praising former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is also weighing a presidential run. …"

Dobson claims the magazine mischaracterized his remarks reported as disparaging of Thompson and the potential presidential candidate's Christian faith.

Reporter Dan Gilgoff quoted Dobson saying of Thompson, "Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for, [but] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression."

A statement by Focus on the Family said Dobson did not mean to disparage Thompson.

"His words weren't intended to represent either an endorsement of former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich or a disparagement of former Sen. Fred Thompson," the statement said.

"Dr. Dobson appreciates Sen. Thompson's solid, pro-family voting record and his position that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided."

Dobson, according to Focus on the Family, was "attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Sen. Thompson hadn't clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him."

Dobson told Gilgoff he had never met Thompson and wasn't certain that his understanding of the former senator's religious convictions was accurate.

"Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren't reported by Mr. Gilgoff," the group's statement said. "We were, however, pleased to learn from his spokesperson that Sen. Thompson professes to be a believer."

Focus on the Family also clarified that Dobson did not excuse Gingrich's "past moral failures," including an affair that ended his second marriage. Gingrich spoke to Dobson of his family life in an interview on the group's daily radio show.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; dobson; editorial; elections; giuliani; mittmcpaul; prolife; stoprudy2008
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To: The Blitherer

I knew you were going to bring that up. Ford would have been a lame duck in 1980. Everything else is speculation.


81 posted on 05/17/2007 3:16:07 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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To: Williams

I was talking about the primary’s and not the main election. At this point I’m not going to say who I’m voting for in the main election because we don’t know yet who is the GOP candidate.


82 posted on 05/17/2007 3:18:14 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!))
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To: Williams

“McCain is pro life and pro war. I don’t like McCain either, but we have to deal with reality. There is a HUGE diff between Hilary and McCain.”

No there’s not and he won’t get my vote, not him, not Guiliani, not any liberal, not in this lifetime not in any other.

They are all globalists and they are all liberals


83 posted on 05/17/2007 3:18:21 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Our Forefathers roared for Liberty, their children now whine for security and safety.)
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To: Williams
:-)

I wish I knew enough about political science to make a good enough argument against that. Loosing control completely is a definite risk we take when we decide not to vote for the Republican primary candidate. It's something that I consider very carefully when trying to decide whether I'll vote Republican or third party if Rudy is nominated.

I would like to point out that a complete loss of control is not always the outcome though. I truly believe that a major contributing factor to Reagan's victory was opposition to 4 more years of Jimmy Carter. Do we know for sure Reagan would have been elected if Ford had won two terms?

84 posted on 05/17/2007 3:19:19 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Jacquerie

Rudy Derangement Syndrome
*****************************

Voting for Rudy regardless of the fact that he is as liberal as Hillary and Obama.......now THAT is RDS!!!!


85 posted on 05/17/2007 3:20:45 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m not voting for Rudy either.

At the same time, I don’t give a rip what Dobson says or does.


86 posted on 05/17/2007 3:21:23 PM PDT by mgstarr (KZ-6090 Smith W.)
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To: Perdogg
Everything else is speculation.

Exactly. What we DO know for sure is that this country was able to bounce back from a Carter and elect a Reagan. If we had to, we could do the same thing with a Hillary, but not if we completely abandon the principles that set us apart from Hillary in the first place.

87 posted on 05/17/2007 3:22:42 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Leatherneck_MT
OK you said it but it's still not true. I'm not a McCain supporter but there are huge differences Hilary/Mccain. Pro war/pro life is vastly different from anti war/ pro abortion.

Then there is that "little" issue no one discusses that drives me crazy - democrat corruption, to the point of selling us out to Red China, with dem US Attorneys in place. The US Attorney is the ONLY protection we have left in NJ.

88 posted on 05/17/2007 3:22:45 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Jake The Goose

Right. If you don’t like Rudy fight to get someone else as the nominee. Don’t sit there and whine and count up how many times Rudy wore a dress. I have no patience with this. Get out there and fight for your candidate. I know I will.


89 posted on 05/17/2007 3:24:18 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Jim Robinson
It looks like we got a pack of simple minded liberals trying to poison this thread. It if is true that they will not vote if Rudy is nominated, then join the rest of the brain dead. It’s voters like those that put the RATS in control of the Senate and House. Wise up! Why don't these nitwits just piss off the Country just because they totally don't get their way . Guess these types never learn.

How stupid would it be if in your distaste for Rudy, if nominated, you will write in someone else. Wow, good thinking. (sarc)

Sorry, but some thing need to be said. I need a vacation!!!

90 posted on 05/17/2007 3:27:19 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Right. If you don’t like Rudy fight to get someone else as the nominee.

Isn't that what we're doing righ now? Informing the Republican Party of the outcome if Rudy is nominated?

91 posted on 05/17/2007 3:27:22 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Logical me
It looks like we got a pack of simple minded liberals trying to poison this thread.

*sigh*

Did you even bother to read some of the arguments against placing a liberal Republican in the White House, or are you just going to knee-jerk and call everyone with legitimate reasons a "liberal".

92 posted on 05/17/2007 3:29:36 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: sdillard
I will vote for any Republican before her.

Trouble is, he's not a Republican. He a Dem hawk at best.

93 posted on 05/17/2007 3:29:48 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhymes, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Jim Robinson

My intention is to vote straight republican ticket. If rudy is the republican nominee, then I will fill in Duncan Hunter, who deserves the nomination. There, straight republican.

Hobson doesn’t want a Hobson choice
‘cause tootyfruityruty is Pro-choice


94 posted on 05/17/2007 3:30:24 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: The Blitherer

Seriously, I don’t know what you are doing. All I know is that you seem to think it was ok for Carter to be elected because it brought in Reagan. I can never think like that, sorry.


95 posted on 05/17/2007 3:30:36 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: cripplecreek
I’ll cast a ballot even if I have to write Hunter in.

As much I detest 3rd parties (and by extensions write ins) at least you'd be participating. I don't grasp the logic of those who're threatening to sit it out. Who do they think they're hurting? They're only disenfranchising themselves. Their political opponents are rejoicing at their lack of participating.

96 posted on 05/17/2007 3:30:48 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: miss marmelstein

No, that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m trying to use Ford-Carter-Reagan as an example of how this country is capable of recovering from a liberal Democrat as long as the other choice ISN’T a liberal Republican but rather a conservative Republican who remains true to the conservative message.


97 posted on 05/17/2007 3:34:38 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: Melas

The only vote wasted is the vote not cast.


98 posted on 05/17/2007 3:34:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Jacquerie
Poor wittle thing does not like it when people think for themselves and do not want to support his candidate. You do not know me. My daughter died in Jan. 2004, my brother died in May, 2006, my husband died in July 2006, my bil died in July, 2006, my mother died in Jan. 2007, my aunt died in Mar 2007. Apr 6 was my brother’s bd, Apr 26 was my mom’s bd, May 13th was my husband’s bd, May 13th was Mother’s Day, also. My daughter’s bd is June 2. You do not deserve to post on this site.
99 posted on 05/17/2007 3:41:18 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: The Blitherer

Where we differ, I guess, is that I feel the country has still not recovered from Carter. He just wrote a book excoriating Israel, making bad trouble for the Jews, to paraphrase Lillian Hellman. He runs around the world making life difficult for us, for western democracies - all because he had the cache of being President of the U.S. once.

One thing I know about Guiliani (and I will support whoever the Republican canidate is): he will never betray us to the world.


100 posted on 05/17/2007 3:41:56 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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