Deal struck on immigration bill (in the Senate, now over to the House for action)

AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/07 | Julie Hirschfeld Davis - ap

[Cementjungle]

...and provided guest workers follow the provisions of the bill..

Of course many won't start following rules now, but no matter, we'll probably let all that slide too.

[50mm]

Usted golpea un caballo muerto. La llamada Congreso, la esfera 2 para inglés y pide a la persona que contesta para dar gracias el nadador para dar la bienvenida los transgresores de la ley de México.

[hercuroc]

from the answerla.org website-this is a piece on the minutemen

of course now it’s time to play the race card

“As the Minutemen started their procession, guarded by dozens of riot police, anti-racist protestors swarmed around them on both sides of the street, chanting loudly and holding pro-immigrant signs and banners. The thousands of mostly Latino shoppers and passersby showed their support for the anti-Minutemen action, many of whom chanted with the pro-immigrant protestors and even joined us as we marched up Broadway to City Hall. Chants in English and Spanish like “Down with the Minutemen! Up with the people!” and “Minutemen racistas, son los terroristas!” rang out, drowning out the pathetic taunts of the racist Minutemen.

The multinational crowd of progressives showed their strength and unity against racism. While the Minutemen carried hateful signs calling immigrants “illegal,” progressive banners read “Alto a la guerra contra los inmigrantes,” “Say NO to racism,” “Amistía,” “The workers struggle has no borders” and more.”

[Sprite518]

Well we have been sold out by Bush. He wants to destroy the USA as we know it.

I know the feds say there is 12 million, but we all know its really around 25 million. Since we all know the government lies about their numbers. However, I will keep it to 20 million just to be conservative about it.

Now factor in how many people are in each of these immigrants families. I believe the average is 4 million. They are coming too since the 20 million will get the amnesty.

Therefore, you have 20 million times 4 (the average family size per illegal immigrant) = 100 Million new immigrants.

We will a completely different country 20 years from now.

[de meanr]

Yeah, I haven’t heard any lucid arguements to explain why this isn’t the best way to handle it. All I’ve heard is “humane” and “peaceful” and “racist”.

But really, my plan doesn’t even bother with the illegals. Just go after the people offering the incentives and the illegals will pack up and leave.

[B Knotts]

Precisely.

[jedward]

“It is really shocking how the majority of freepers cannot see the simple fact that it is impossible to deport 12 million immigrants.”

Without getting technical or anything I look at 12 million people getting here from Point A to their present Point B. I’d say reversing that process would actually be faster and even cheaper than the intial movement.

[Prokopton]

It is really shocking how the majority of freepers cannot see the simple fact that it is impossible to deport 12 million immigrants.

This is the United States. Were the guys that went to the moon. We understand difficult but we don't believe in impossible.

[PeskyOne]

now I am thinking of changing party registration

I'd suggest we all contact our Representatives and let them know we expect them to vote against this bill, and we mean to find candidates to run against them if they don't start representing their constituents. Let's take back our Party and not give it up, or over, to Democrats. I plan to tell Bush he not only has betrayed the people who elected him, but he will have the legacy of being the man who destroyed the Republican Party for failing to carry out existing laws!

[50mm]

Todo Su Aztlan Es Pertenece A Nosotros

[TUAN_JIM]

Unless you have proof to back up such accusations, then I suggest you refrain from making them. The reason I support amnesty is simply because I see no other peaceful way to deal with the situation concerning American guest workers.

I'll keep making them. You can count on that. Also, what "guest workers?" We don't have a guest worker program. Are you referring to all these foreigners who are in this country illegally? Send them back to their own countries. It's not our fault that you're too dumb to be able to "deal with the situation." Uphold our laws! That's the answer.

[TUAN_JIM]

And now conservatives refusal to vote Republican in the last election is coming back to bite them in the rear. Those who stayed home share a lot of the responsiblity for the inevitable passing of the new amnesty bill since they helped hand the Demorats the candidates they needed to ensure its passage. And some here seem intent to make an even worse mistake next year by crowning the Hildabeast our new president.

The politicians in the GOP are responsible for their losses, and nobody else.

[TUAN_JIM]

Uneducated, unskilled, government dependent, poor people who are used to socialism and who have little regard for the civilities we take for granted are a natural constituency for Democrats, not Republicans

Chezwick has to be the dumbest poster on this forum. He's for this amnesty, he thinks that conservatives are to blame for the losses in Nov '06, and that Hispanics are going to vote majority Republican. How does one become so lost?

[oldbill]

This sure frees up a lot of time for me during the 2008 election season.

I feel sorry for you younger types, but I see the light. From now on I think it will be best for me to support Democrats and their policies and to get everything I can and more. I want to live out my days in comfort on your dime. Why worry about a third world America that will follow my passing. Let the Bush girls worry about that.

[Rick_Michael]

This is disguisting. I want to slap these senators....that’s as nice as I can put it.

[bray]

They wanted all or nothing and that is exactly what they are getting.
Maybe next they will help HilaryCare get elected to really show how “conservative” they are.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[50mm]

Pienso que estoy a punto de vomitar.

[Prokopton]

Chezwick has to be the dumbest poster on this forum. He's for this amnesty, he thinks that conservatives are to blame for the losses in Nov '06, and that Hispanics are going to vote majority Republican. How does one become so lost?

Just drink the Republican Kool-Aid. After all, President Bush believes all of these things.

[dragnet2]

Illegals, who broke the laws of this country, get rewarded.

They not only get rewarded, they get all kinds of free benefits. Try getting free health care in this country if you are a legitimate citizen. Try having 5 kids, all delivered free at the local hospital, and then demand the tax payers and hospitals cover all your medical bills.

[Cyropaedia]

Simple, it would be a like battle of attrition. As it stands now, we're already sending illegals back under the condition that their American born kids can return after they turn 18. It would not be done overnight, and would take years but it could be done. These are people that knew that there would be consequences for their actions, they knew full well that they were breaking the law.

We need to change this ridiculous interpretation of the 14th Amendment where we grant citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. That in and of itself would greatly reduce illegal immigration over the long run.