[Remember_Salamis]

So we should restrict our own freedoms and liberties, which you say we are defending, in order to prevent the enemy from using them to destroy our freedom and liberties?

A little inconsistent, no?

Just because you say it's a culture war doesn't make it so.

[ZULU]

“So we should restrict our own freedoms and liberties, which you say we are defending, in order to prevent the enemy from using them to destroy our freedom and liberties?”

I didn’t really say that, but in ANY war, we have to accept some kinds of restrictions on our activities which we would normally oppose. We did that in the Revolution, Civil War, WW1, and WW2. We didn’t in Viet Nam, which is one of the reasons we lost.

“Just because you say it’s a culture war doesn’t make it so.”

Its more people than humble me who have stated that and in very clear terms, and a good many of the speakers were our enemies themselves. Facts speak for themselves. Only the blind refuse to recognize them.

[ZULU]

“Remember Salamis” is an interesting tagline.

If the Athenians were not willing to leave their city for Aegina, and not willing to accept a Spartan “Admiral”, the Persians very likely would have won the Persian War.

So you see, we are not in a unique situation here.