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To: Kaslin

Someone please help me try to understand something. For months the argument has been cut and run or stay till victory. Could someone tell me what victory means. Are we going to “take the hill”, or take over the city, or bomb the enemy’s airports and runways, or bomb their, bases, or their armaments, take out their weapons, their planes, their ships? Are we going to do any of those usual “benchmarks” of victory. Or are we going to continue driving around the countryside in Humvees getting blown up. So far, that’s pretty much the description of our mission there, as I see it. I’m not sure why the administration hasn’t been able to better define the mission, but I, who likes to consider myself somewhat informed, is clueless to what the mission is or what our methods are to achieve whatever the mission is.


9 posted on 05/15/2007 10:34:44 AM PDT by observer821
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To: observer821

Once again the United States has taken a bad situation and made it worse. WE BETTER FINISH the job...if not I will never support another military operation. We never finish the job. One side or the other always stops us...the dems or the republicans. We shall see how this ends.


10 posted on 05/15/2007 10:42:28 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: observer821
Or are we going to continue driving around the countryside in Humvees getting blown up. So far, that’s pretty much the description of our mission there, as I see it.

That's how the media portrays it.

They're woefully distorting it - and deliberately so that people will have exactly the impression you have.

12 posted on 05/15/2007 11:04:03 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Quiet Down Out There!)
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To: observer821

Don’t wait for the MSM to spoon feed you. All you have to do is read the actual documents which outline in detail the answers to your questions.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/


14 posted on 05/15/2007 11:04:59 AM PDT by avacado
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To: observer821

Click on my name and read what is written directly below the ping list. Your answer is there, and it will take decades to fully accomplish.

My husband is an Iraqi. His entire family still lives in Iraq, from Kirkuk to Baghdad to Najaf.

He talks to them regularly since the war. One good thing is that the young adults are getting married now, something they were not doing prior to the war. A bad thing is that some of his family (Sunni’s) have had leave their houses to move across the River because it’s not safe on the other side (sectarian violence last year). Another bad thing is that his lifelong friend’s brother was kidnapped by terrorists, tortured, and held for ransom. Money was raised and the terrorists were paid off, and thankfully they didn’t lie and he was actually released. Another bad thing is that his brother, a translator for our American forces, was nearly killed by a roadside bomb. He’s in bad shape but he will live. All of these things happened last year.

He was told by his family recently that Irbil is pretty safe to fly into. We are waiting to hear back and see if it’s safe enough for him to ride from there to Baghdad, or not. Maybe he will be able to visit his family for the 2nd time in 25 years when the temps go back down later this year. He went just after the war and saw his mother before she died.

When his family tells us that nephew has a decent job, and niece is going to school, and they spent the weekend having a picnic at the park, and ooh, did you see those pictures we emailed to you??? - then I would say we have reached victory in Iraq, which is just the beginning of this Global War on Terror.

But please read my “About” page for your answer.


21 posted on 05/15/2007 2:49:44 PM PDT by Miztiki (My vote will be for the best candidate, but my heart and soul longs for God's Kingdom)
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