STICKING TO HIS GUNS: A PRO-CHOICE GIULIANI (Rooty's MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Repub Party takeover)

NY POST ^ | May 14, 2007 | VOX POPULI

[Liz]

**** Giuliani is personally opposed but supports a woman's right to choose to kill her unborn child? What would he think of someone in the 1850s personally opposed to slavery who supported a plantation owner's right to choose between using slaves to work his fields or hiring free men to do it? NAME REDACTED Malverne

**** Family values, including the fundamental right to life of the unborn, are at the heart of Republican ideology....the term "pro-choice Republican" is an oxymoron...... morality and faith are not things that can be restricted exclusively to the private sphere. No politician in any society or government can, in good conscience, rule coherently in the service of the common good apart from one's own faith or values. The conscience, being one and indivisible, does not permit the acting out of parallel lives. Hamilton, Ohio

**** Giuliani is one of those politicians incapable of stating that he is wrong....... The pro-life majority of the GOP will not accept a pro-abort at the head of the ticket. We have a word for people like Giuliani: Democrats. He would fit right in with Sens. Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin......two reprobates who have zero respect for women and children. Woodside

[Vaquero]

religious right has nothing to do with the following:

…most of Clintons Policies are very similar to most of mine... Rudy Giuliani 1996

On Abortion ...I’ve said that I’ll uphold a woman’s right to choice, that I will fund abortions so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right others can exercise… Rudy Giuliani 1989.

On Gun Control ...This is an industry that is profiting from the suffering of innocent people. What’s worse, its profits rest on a number of illegal and immoral practices. This lawsuit is meant to end the free pass that the gun industry has so long enjoyed... Rudy Giuliani 2000 after filing suit against gun makers and distributors.

On Gun Control ....We need a federal law that bans all assault weapons, and if in fact you do need a handgun you should be subjected to at least the same restrictions-and really stronger ones-that exist for driving an automobile... Rudy Giuliani 1997

He is a socialist and a facist all rolled into one...He was what NYC needed at the time, but he is NOT presidential timber by any stretch of the immagination...he might as well be Shrillery.

[Liz]

Rooty should have laid low on all this until after winning a few primaries.

Oh please-----that was the original gameplan-----except that it was based on the ignorant assumption that social conservatives were going to roll over and play dead----and let Rooty play out the masquerade.

Didn't happen.

Liberal Rooty was forced out into the open (thank you conservatives).

[Liz]

.....religious right voters.....will get a warm feeling while bashing Rudy or Mitt - and end up unintentionally supporting Hillary......

I assume you can type that, and whistle "Dixie," all at the same time.

[Manic_Episode]

"The GOP is being ripped apart by one issue religious right voters. They will get a warm feeling while bashing Rudy or Mitt - and end up unintentionally supporting Hillary."

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Nonsense.

Rudy is attempting to remove 3 major planks from the R platform, and that is what is ripping apart the GOP, not the plank wanting to stay in place.

Rudy and his supporters are the ones helping Hillary by attempting to drive away the conservative base. That's what happens when YOU support a liberal, so I suggest you knock it off while there's still plenty of time to get a conservative nominated.

[dirtboy]

The GOP is being ripped apart by one issue religious right voters.

One issue? That's part of the Rudy booster big lie - that opposition to Rudy is based on just one issue.

Try abortion. Gay rights. Gun control. CFR. Global warming. For starters.

Throw in Rudy's control-freak authoritarian mindset, his cronyism, his disregard for the law when he sees fit, and his unwillingness to be forthcoming about his business interests, and there are far more reasons to oppose Rudy than to support him.

[dirtboy]

An earlier post of yours:

And to all you gun nuts please note, it takes more than a president to make a law.

I see you are like a lot of folks over at Wideawakes with your contempt for conservatives. Perhaps you should join them instead of stinking up FR.

[Lauren BaRecall]

I just listened to the Rudy/Laura Ingraham interview on Hot Air.

Laura asked him if he personally hates abortion so much, what does he think is wrong with it?

HE NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION!

Rudy simply reiterated his personal opposition/woman's right stance. I really wish Laura hadn't let him wiggle out of that one.

[cpforlife.org]

“Ruthless Rooty is conscienceless, lies with impunity, and has absolutely no shame (the signs of a sociopath).”

Also signs of many a politician.

But you’re right he is scum.

[Lauren BaRecall]

The GOP is being ripped apart by one issue religious right voters.

Ripped apart!!!!!!!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!!!!!!

The fabric of the GOP is being rent assunder!!!!!!

Of Course This Wouldn't Be Happening if only the moderate (??????) Democraps hadn't infiltrated the Republican Party. All you RINO Rudy supporters are just miffed because the conservatives (i.e., THE BASE) are digging in! Ha Ha Ha!!!!!! DEMO GO HOME!!!!

[Liz]

.....he personally hates abortion so much.....what does he think is wrong with it?........

He can't answer without admitting to the humanity of the unborn.

[Liz]

Signs of a sociopath: conscienceless, lies with impunity, and has absolutely no shame...........”signs exhibited by many a politician.”

[b9]

Wideawakes ... contempt for conservatives.

What do you think they'll do if Rudy goes third party?

[Lauren BaRecall]

I know.

Furthermore, I think that Giuliani is dangerous enough, but what’s even more dangerous is that people don’t listen carefully. There are posters debating Rudy pro and con on that Hot Air webpage, but not one of them (at least by the time I read it) mentioned how Rudy avoided Laura’s question.

[dirtboy]

What do you think they'll do if Rudy goes third party?

Rationalize their continued support for Rudy without missing a step.

[Liz]

I think that Giuliani is dangerous enough, but what’s even more dangerous is that people don’t listen carefully...........

They sure know now.......

[cpforlife.org]

Giuliani Defends Abortion Position as He Struggles to Convince Conservatives

By Peter J. Smith

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07051408.html

HOUSTON, Texas, May 14, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani tried once again to convince conservatives last Friday that they should support him despite his pro-abortion record.

The former mayor appeared before 500 students and faculty at Houston Baptist University last Friday, where he discussed his support for abortion among other topics such as his record as mayor of New York, fiscal responsibility in government, and the ongoing war in Iraq.

“This is a matter of deep and profound judgment,” Giuliani said in a speech. “It’s a matter of morals. It’s a matter of your interpretation of how laws should operate, your interpretation of how respect for the rights of others should operate. But in a country like ours ... I believe you have to respect their viewpoint and give them a level of choice. I would grant women the right to make that choice.”

While Giuliani said he believes abortion is “morally wrong,” he said he believed individuals should decide for themselves and their decisions should be respected. Giuliani has a long history of supporting abortion-on-demand, including public funding for abortions, support for Roe v. Wade, and until very recently partial-birth abortion.

“You have a right to evaluate this in figuring out if you can support me, and at what level you can support me,” Giuliani said. “Everybody’s got to make a choice. How important are the differences and then how important are the other issues that are involved in this election?”

Last Tuesday, conservative talk-show host Laura Ingraham grilled Giuliani over his personal opposition to abortion in an interview, asking how he could justify his $900 in contributions to Planned Parenthood, one of the largest abortion providers in America with multi-million dollar profits, if he personally “hates” abortion. Giuliani responded the abortion provider gave out information to women about abortion, and that was consonant with his position. Giuliani told Ingraham he would personally encourage ultrasounds for women considering abortion, but would not support a policy as President to mandate it.

At last Thursday’s Republican presidential debate, Giuliani also appeared indifferent to the fate of Roe v. Wade - unlike the other nine Republican candidates - where he said it would be “OK” to repeal it or let it remain as precedent.

Giuliani asked pro-life supporters to disregard his pro-abortion history throughout his campaign. Last month at a stop in Des Moines, Iowa, the former mayor created a furor among conservatives after he told audiences “our party has to get beyond issues like that.” (http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/apr/07041705.html)

A thrice-married pro-abortion Catholic, Giuliani has come under more scrutiny for his anti-life views after Pope Benedict XVI recently voiced his support for excommunicating pro-abortion politicians. (http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07050901.html) The New York Daily News reports that two New York priests, Rev. Joseph Marabe of St. Patrick’s Cathedral, and Msgr. Thomas Modugno, pastor of St. Monica’s, the East Side church where Giuliani wed his second wife (now divorced), have stated they would deny communion to Giuliani over his abortion position.

Related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

Giuliani Outrages Conservatives With “Get Beyond” Abortion Snipe http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/apr/07041705.html

Pope Supports Excommunication for Pro-Abortion Politicians - “Incompatible with Receiving Communion” http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07050901.html ;