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To: AmishDude

>>Fine. ID is not science. It is appropriate as a part of the humanities or social sciences, is it not?

Should an administration be able to deny tenure to a professor who is a member of CPUSA? Or, more likely, the LDS church?<<

I don’t know what CPUSA is....

I don’t see a problem with discussing ID in school, just not as science.

Tenure has a lot to do with professional reputation so what church you attend would not normally figure into it. Being active in professional organizations that the school feels would damage the reputation of the school could effect tenure whether religion was involved or not.

For example, I doubt there would be a problem with a Medical prof who was a scientologist. But if he was a frequent speaker and writer about non-scientific Scientology based medical treatments that might be a problem depending on how high profile he was. If he was using his assistant professor status to promote Scientology healing that might prevent him from getting full professor status.

That’s pretty much the situation here. Gonzales uses his assistant professor status to further an organization that works against science education. The university doesn’t want to give him more status to do use that way because it reflects on the university.


108 posted on 05/13/2007 6:43:09 PM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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To: gondramB

So basically, you’re saying that, after you saw he was affiliated with the Discovery Institute, you tuned everything else, all his accomplishments, anything he’s actually said or written, out.

I’m sorry, that’s an intellectually lazy approach that doesn’t befit you-— I know this sounds smarmy, but I seriously know you can do better than that.

Should I disregard Wesley Smith’s work on the ethics of cloning simply because he’s affilated with DI?

Besides, tenure does not generally work the way you have described.

Generally, when a man’s peers i.e. the department he is in, decide to grant him tenure, the president’s sign off is a usually a rubber stamp-— read amishdude’s posts.

The fact is, Gonzalez’s record of scholarship is undeniable. Is there anything either of you can think of to criticize that record?


116 posted on 05/13/2007 7:21:46 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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