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To: teldon30
Article: But I also believe that many of these men, consciously or subconsciously, wanted to meet women who fit the stereotype of the submissive “Geisha girl,” whose primary purpose is to entertain and please men.

I'm trying to figure out where this stereotype comes from. It certainly doesn't come from the popular culture. I think the conclusion the writer's trying to avoid is that the consensus standard for male looks is the Caucasian man, whereas the consensus standard for female looks is the Oriental woman. Men of all races prefer Oriental women because they find them good-looking. Conversely, women of all races like Oriental men the least because they find them unattractive. Black women are equally unpopular because men of all races find them unattractive.

Note this is a generalization. Some white men marry black women. And some Oriental men marry Oriental women. But on average, Oriental men will have more trouble landing Oriental women, and black women will have more difficulty landing white men. And this is probably reflected in the marriage statistics.

58 posted on 05/12/2007 12:36:04 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

It’s not just appearance, but also impressions people have of femininity or lack thereof — or masculinity or lack thereof — in the personality. Asian women, generally speaking, are considered most feminine, black women least feminine, white women in between. Black and Hispanic men make up for some of the relatively low education and socioeconomic status, etc., by the generally impression that they are the most masculine. White men may also represent a physical ideal for Asian ladies, but for white ladies, the physical ideal seems to be a Hispanic man. There is also considerable physical attraction for black men.


61 posted on 05/12/2007 12:43:19 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Zhang Fei
I'm trying to figure out where this stereotype comes from.

I think it comes from white women. I've had about a half dozen different women dismissively drop the "submissive" line when talking about Asian women. They must believe not having the "chip" is submissive. Their loss.
105 posted on 05/12/2007 4:25:39 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Black women are equally unpopular because men of all races find them unattractive.”

Speak for yourself. I find a lot of black women very attractive, but I never have found a black woman who didn’t insist she wanted only to date and marry a black man. The odds of finding a black woman and white man together are far slimmer than the odds of finding a white woman and a black man, and that’s not entirely because of the biases of black and white men.


174 posted on 05/12/2007 10:31:30 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (If ‘He can win,’ is your first defense, obviously, that’s his one plus--not his conservatism.)
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