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Fort Dix suspects all are denied bail
Yahoo!News ^ | May 11, 2007 | GEOFF MULVIHILL

Posted on 05/11/2007 2:08:13 PM PDT by Kaslin

CAMDEN, N.J. - Six Muslim men suspected of plotting to massacre U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix were ordered held without bail Friday.

Prosecutors argued that the men, all born outside the United States, pose a flight risk. They are being held at a federal detention center in Philadelphia.

The men were arrested Monday night during what the FBI said was an attempt to buy AK-47 machine guns, M-16s and other weapons. They targeted Fort Dix, a post 25 miles east of Philadelphia that is used primarily to train reservists, partly because one of them had delivered pizzas there and was familiar with the base, according to court filings. Their objective was to kill "as many American soldiers as possible," the documents said.

The men have lived in and around Philadelphia for years, worshipped at moderate mosques and worked blue-collar jobs installing roofs, driving a cab, delivering pizzas and baking bread. Four are ethnic Albanians from the former Yugoslavia, one is from Jordan and one is from Turkey.

As they were led into the courtroom, each of the suspects smiled to relatives and friends, many of whom wept and blew kisses to them.

Only one of the men, Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, 22, asked to be released on bail, and friends and relatives offered to post properties they owned as collateral.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Stigall argued against letting Shnewer be released to the custody of his parents while awaiting trial. He said many of the illegal actions that the government alleges Shnewer committed happened or were planned at his parents' house.

Defense lawyers for some of the men said they are considering attacking the prosecution's reliance on two paid informants who infiltrated the group more than a year ago and recorded conversations with the defendants.

Authorities said they first learned about the men in January 2006 after a tip from a clerk at a Mount Laurel electronics store. The clerk called police because a home video the men wanted transferred to a DVD looked like it might have terrorist links, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said.

Earlier this year, authorities said, the men took a training trip to the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania, where they fired weapons and played paintball to prepare for an attack.

Five of the men — Shnewer; Serdar Tatar, 23; Dritan "Anthony" or "Tony" Duka, 28; Shain Duka, 26; and Eljvir "Elvis" Duka, 23 — are charged with conspiring to kill uniformed military personnel, an offense punishable by life in prison.

Agron Abdullahu, 24, is charged with helping illegal immigrants obtain weapons. He could face 10 years in prison if convicted.

Abdullahu, who faces the least serious charges of the six, will have another bail hearing next Thursday.


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The Duka brothers are supposedly illegal aliens who came here in 1984. The youngest is 24, not 23 as the article states. That would have made him just a year old. The other two were about 3 and 5 years old. That must mean their parents came here illegally to. Where are they?
1 posted on 05/11/2007 2:08:14 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Time to go door to door to root out these illegal vermin.

One weekend is all we need....

(Read tag line)


2 posted on 05/11/2007 2:11:24 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Kaslin
Good.

I listened to that Ibraham Hooper on Dennis Miller last night. He and his CAIR brethren should be rounded up too.

3 posted on 05/11/2007 2:12:03 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin

I wonder if the illegals would have qualified for amnesty under President Bush’s “Guest Worker” program.


4 posted on 05/11/2007 2:12:57 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Kaslin

Harkens back to prior Administration treating terrorism as a criminal matter ... but if it works and no Constitutional challenges they should be spending a lot of their future in jail. Wonder what our ‘hardened criminals’ think of terrorist? Any thing like child molesters?


5 posted on 05/11/2007 2:14:05 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: samadams2000

I know where they all are in my neighborhood... let me know when it’s go-time.


6 posted on 05/11/2007 2:18:18 PM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: Kaslin
no bail, obviously the judge is not a carterite or a clintonista appointee.
7 posted on 05/11/2007 2:20:40 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Kaslin
They should be denied oxygen.
8 posted on 05/11/2007 2:36:15 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Kaslin

Since they are illegals and terrorists, why should they have any rights for counsel and a speedy trial. We should detain them indefinately and deport there parents.


9 posted on 05/11/2007 2:36:18 PM PDT by PJBankard (Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser. -Gen. George Patton)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Seems so


10 posted on 05/11/2007 2:46:45 PM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: PJBankard

Exactly


11 posted on 05/11/2007 2:48:47 PM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: Doctor Raoul
"They should be denied oxygen."

I just saw the defense attorney of one of these creeps on the news. He was telling a sob story about how his client's father owns a pizzeria that delivers pizza to Fort Dix, and because his client was arrested ahd charged with this crime his dad will go out of business...duh, ya think? Also his client is being mistreated because he has no yet been given any religious items. On top of that, his mother has had a nervous breakdown! Kind of like the attorney for the Menendez brothers saying we should have sympathy for them because they're orphans (after killing their own parents).
12 posted on 05/11/2007 3:21:16 PM PDT by wontbackdown
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To: PJBankard
Here, here. At least for the 3 who we know are illegals. One thing that always gets me. We will send them to prison and THEN deport them afterwards. If the government has any influence at all why not just pay thier country of origin to keep them in prison there, where the conditions would not be as pleasant? Would probably take no more than the amount spent each year to keep a inmate here. I suppose it would depend on the home country and the amount of pull we actually have with them.
13 posted on 05/11/2007 3:49:00 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Kaslin

Ft Dix firing squad should take care of the problem and send a clear message.


14 posted on 05/11/2007 3:53:16 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Rest of the Story, My bad that this didnt print with the first part.)
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To: Bogtrotter52

Not exactly, if they are found guilty it isn’t a life sentence, which is usually 20 years. They will have life imprisonment, which means they will be in prison until they die. But what they need to do after the trial is to take them out back and shoot them. Then we don’t have to worry about imprisonment or deportation.


15 posted on 05/11/2007 4:06:47 PM PDT by PJBankard (Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser. -Gen. George Patton)
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To: Man50D
Did you listen to Rush lately?

He's been talking about Clinton letting 20,000+ Albanians in without ANY screening or background checks. He also had sound bytes of Hillary talking about how she (back in the 90's after Bill let them in) had arranged to get them a website so they could communicate with Europe, Macedonia, and Kosovo.

In a nutshell - the clinton administration probably brought these raghead pos's into the country, and then gave them the means to communicate with their superiors at home.

16 posted on 05/11/2007 7:30:44 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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Did you listen to Rush lately?

Unfortunately I can't listen to him. This thing called work keeps getting in the way but it doesn't surprise me a socialists like the Clinton's would aid and abet an enemy seeking to destroy America. As the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
17 posted on 05/11/2007 7:41:08 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
Fortunately I have a job where I can use an MP3 player w/headphones.

My girlfriend gets me Rush 24/7 every Christmas, so I listen to him everyday, but it’s always yesterday’s show. Sometimes I skip a day so I get 2 shows.

You may want to think about doing that, even if it's only for the drive to and from work.

18 posted on 05/11/2007 8:31:09 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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You may want to think about doing that, even if it's only for the drive to and from work.

Are you referring to the MP3 player or a girlfriend? ;O)
19 posted on 05/11/2007 8:34:29 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Slump Tester

I seem to remember that, back in the Clinton era, we sent troops to Kosovo to get Millisovich and his CHRISTIAN forces to quiit exiling (not killing) Muslems in an “Ethnic Cleansing “ campaign . In Clinton’s (Democrat) day, the Muslims were the “good guys” and the Christians were the “bad guys” . Go figure .


20 posted on 05/12/2007 1:36:45 PM PDT by dadwags (dadwags)
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