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To: lucysmom
The income tax taxes the productive more and rewards dependency. If you're over a certain tax bracket, you're also punished by being taxed more simply because other people pay little or no income tax at all. So yes, its a redistributive scheme. Which is exactly why politicians like the income tax - it allows them to do social engineering via the tax code.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

189 posted on 05/13/2007 8:13:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The income tax taxes the productive more and rewards dependency. If you're over a certain tax bracket, you're also punished by being taxed more simply because other people pay little or no income tax at all. So yes, its a redistributive scheme. Which is exactly why politicians like the income tax - it allows them to do social engineering via the tax code.

What do you call those little monthly fairytax prebate checks that would dwarf the social security program in size? Many people under the fairtax would pay nothing or even make money. And how about certain items like education being exempt from the fairtax. The fairtax hasn't even been passed yet and it already has exceptions and social engineering in it. The opportunity for social engineering is alive and well with the fairtax. It doesn't even eliminate many of the existing social engineering taxes like cigarette, alcohol or fuel taxes.

191 posted on 05/13/2007 8:18:47 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: goldstategop
The income tax taxes the productive more and rewards dependency. If you're over a certain tax bracket, you're also punished by being taxed more simply because other people pay little or no income tax at all. So yes, its a redistributive scheme. Which is exactly why politicians like the income tax - it allows them to do social engineering via the tax code.

Have you ever heard "you can't get blood from a turnip"? The fairytax solves that problem by creating a huge bureaucracy to dispense a check to every duly registered household in the US so that thousands of newly created fairytax collectors can extract Caesar's share (for a nominal fee) and send it back to Caesar.

Under the FairTax plan, is the low income household paying the tax, or is the government (wealthier, big spending taxpayers)?

If SS and Medicare deductions begin with the first dollar a worker earns, then even the poorest worker among us has money deducted from his check and sent to Washington. If corporate income taxes and the individual taxes of every worker involved with making and marketing a product are reflected in the final price of a product or service, then every single person who purchases that product or service is contributing to the system. Doesn't matter if they're citizens, illegal immigrants, rich, poor, or tourists.

The thing about social engineering is that government can't, not do it. The FairTax, itself, is a huge social engineering project. To claim that the income tax is a scheme to allow politicians to carry out their social engineering plans while denying the social engineering aspect of the FairTax is just plain dishonest.

232 posted on 05/14/2007 8:53:26 AM PDT by lucysmom
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