Posted on 05/08/2007 8:49:25 AM PDT by TheBethsterNH
December 4, 2000 issue of The Nation.
Making Every Vote Count
by Lani Guinier
(excerpts)In Wyoming one vote in the Electoral College corresponds to 71,000 voters; in Florida, one electoral vote corresponds to 238,000 voters. [it's NOT FAIR! WAAAH!]
Those convicted of a felony are permanently banned from voting in Florida and twelve other states. In Florida alone, this year more than 400,000 ex-felons, about half of them black, were denied the opportunity to vote. [it's NOT FAIR! WAAAH!]
It was an invention for a time 200 years ago. I think that times have changed and we ought to get rid of it, one way or the other.
Typical !#$!@# commie anti-American. They think everything more than 50 years old is irrelevent and want to throw it out.
“Thoughtful”, my !$@#!.
Actually, I'm willing to bet he does... he just doesn't care.
I wonder which part of "the right to keep and bear arms" he doesn't understand.
The funny thing is, in three out of the past four Presidential elections it would have hurt Dean’s Democrats if it were done properly. Why? Because in any ideal nationwide popular election (if we were to adhere to the Constitution in all other facets), the winner would have to have a MAJORITY, not a plurality, of votes to win election. That means Clinton (43% and 49%) would have had to go to a Congressional vote in 1992 and 1996, we’d be talking about President Bob Dole in the latter, and Bush still would have been elected in 2000 the same way. Of course, to Dean and anyone else who talks about it, they just want enough to get their candidate in, so they’ll lower the standard to 40% or something like that, will of the people be darned. I’m not all that opposed to a direct popular election, but there’d better be a majority requirement for the winner if they were to do it.
Bingo! Can we say abortion, Howie?
He says at one point: I’m with Howard Dean in that I think, in this day and age, we really cross state borders, we move from one state to the next, and there’s not this same kind of sense that the interests of one state are very different from the interests of others, which the Electoral College was designed to protect, she said.
But when talking about gun laws, the difference between the various states is stressed. Poor logic.
So the history so far is:
a) Special Prosecutor of the president - implemented/declared bad by same
b) Electronic/computer voting - implemented/declared bad by same
c) Electoral college concept - ????
LOLOL!!!!
A Republic is a form of Democracy, it just isn't direct Democracy.
Democracy: Rule by the People.
Republic: A state or nation in which the supreme power rests in all the citizens entitled to vote. This power is exercised by representatives elected, directly or indirectly, by them and responsible to them.
Well, Howie, let’s see - I live in a blue state (California) and I can vote Republican every election and it doesn’t make a dime’s worth of difference because the San Francsico Bay Area and Los Angeles decide who the winner of California is - now YOU tell ME who the hell is disenfranchised??!!
You know what would REALLY make the Dummicrats cringe - apportion electoral votes in the same manner as the popular vote - i.e., no more winner take all. Let’s hear the Dummis tell us why this is a BAD idea!
Yes, that's one of the left mentality's most worrisome features: history must be revised if it's not convenient for them.
Electorial college system on Dean: Get rid of him!
Exactly. Everyone in power knows this. I just wish some Republican leader would be man enough to stand up for the Constitution and say that the ONLY reason the Demos are doing this is to "steal" the election. I hate the fact the Reps don't call Dean and his ilk Stalinists. The left wants to destroy this Republic.
If you were ever curious as to what a simmering bucket of poop sounded and smelled like, there’s your sign....Is it a mere coincidence that the word “sh!t” and the name “Dean” both have four letters?
I THINK NOT!
Dean...you giant loon from the left...get lost!
Dems want to dump the EC, because their power base resides in large, urban population centers.
If the States were really interested in making their various localities the targets of Candidate campaigns, they would dump the “sweepstakes” method of assigning EVs, and use the method that Maine does, and apportion their EVs per popular vote, instead of winner-take-all. If California or Texas did that, then the minority Parties wouldn’t write them off; 40% of CA Electors is better than 0%.
Hey Howard, you need to dust off your copy of The Constitution; You can’t get rid of the Electoral College “one way or another”, just ONE way. The process of a Constitutional amendment is that ONE way.
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRGH!!!
Some states are more equal than others.
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