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Do yourself a favor and COUNT the venomous anti-Giuliani threads. I'm not favoring Giuliani -- I agree that he's not ideal. But what's happening here isn't merely "comparing candidates." There's a very sour tone to the debate and I, for one, think that we're dead in the water in 2008 unless something changes.

I have debated a few of these repugnant creatures here at FR who tout the entire Sanger line on eugenics. They speak of how if we don't allow and promote abortion, the minorities and undesirables and those of low intelligence will breed like flies, bankrupting the welfare state and enslaving us all by voting for increased socialism. They speak of thinning and culling that herd that would otherwise destroy us with breeding their undesirable and unproductive offspring.

Now, most of the Juliebots don't understand this, taken in by the rhetoric and the fiction of only-Rudi-can-beat-Hitlery but some of their ringleaders do take this exact position. Make no mistake, this is exactly what is meant when a NARAL Champion Of Choice like Guiliani gives speeches that praise Margaret Sanger. The praise of Sanger is the praise and advocacy of exactly these policies. That is what it means when NARAL gives Giuliani four times as much money as they gave Hitlery. Planned Barrenhood and their political arm, NARAL, still pursue these same Sangeresque goals.

There is not room on one forum for pro-lifers and those who take the position of racial eugenicists and spout the Sanger talking points and who support candidates who praise Sanger.

JimRob was very wise to rid our forum of this repugnant and racist element. This is not the first time that such persons and their dupes had to be ejected from the forum.

This is a pro-life forum. It always has been. And I believe JimRob when he says that it always will be.

“I have debated a few of these repugnant creatures here at FR who tout the entire Sanger line on eugenics. They speak of how if we don’t allow and promote abortion, the minorities and undesirables and those of low intelligence will breed like flies, bankrupting the welfare state and enslaving us all by voting for increased socialism. They speak of thinning and culling that herd that would otherwise destroy us with breeding their undesirable and unproductive offspring.

Now, most of the Juliebots don’t understand this, taken in by the rhetoric and the fiction of only-Rudi-can-beat-Hitlery but some of their ringleaders do take this exact position. Make no mistake, this is exactly what is meant when a NARAL Champion Of Choice like Guiliani gives speeches that praise Margaret Sanger.”
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THAT is very hard-hitting if one is searching for a perspective. One should also consider it (the above) a convenient distraction to rudees sanctuary and “comprehensive” reform positions, which are harming America-as-we-have-known-and-loved-it waaaay more than than the few actual “defectives” described above who are aborted ever could.