Posted on 05/07/2007 5:25:31 PM PDT by madprof98
I prefer Hunter of those running now. Fred Thompson will be a formidable oponent should he run. As for Rudy, he is beatable - Hillary IS the NY senator after all, not him.
Wow! There you are again, repeating the same garbage verbatim on different threads.
You really love Giuliani, don’t you!
<<”I have seen several people say she starred in the role but this seems to indicate she never actually performed. Do you know the correct answer?”>>
As I recall, Hanover definitely performed in the play..the “subsequently” would be after her perfomrances were under way. I have no idea how long she did it, but it was something she was known for.
No surprises there! I think everyone would find the campaign finance reports interesting reading!!! State and National level.
I’m not a social conservative, and abortion isn’t my priority issue. My problem with Giuliani is his complete lack of understanding about how the Constitution works, and/or his complete contempt for it.
For me, the relevance of this story is that it disproves the myth that Giuliani is a tough, straight-talking person — his words and his actions are completely at odds.
I think I will be voting for Romney as I can hear that he is for real and has great business and family success. I heard Fred the other day giving a boring speach. I don’t think he would be a great choice. If we get another Dole type of candidate I think we will lose and we cannot afford to lose this time.
So what?
At this point, Rudy is the only rep candidate with the slightest chance to win POTUS. And anyone with an open inquiring mind realizes that. Why politicians like Newt realize it. The 2008 election will be impossible for an unknown rep to win.
I guess your philosophy is “surrender now, and then I won’t have to later”.
You heap scorn on so-called “purity” and make fun of conservatives who are “right wing extremists”. Well, hon - I don’t gamble, but if I did, I’d bet you that if Rudy runs, he’ll drive away so many actual conservatives that he will lose.
Of course, if he wins, WE lose.
But your defeatist attitude is even worse than his liberalism.
When Clinton ran, very few people had heard of the governor of Arkansas, either. Of course, without Perot he wouldn’t have won, so the analogy is not totally apt. Name recognition can happen - ever heard of “advertising”?
Anyway, I know why you really like Giuliani - because his views actually coincide more with your views than an actual conservative Republican. I know this because I decided to read some of your comments. Liberal RINOS like other liberal RINOS. It’s that simple.
I am not ready to support Romney yet. I am strictly for platform at this stage - I want all I can get in one package.........and I have heard Fred speak and loved him.
-the only negative on Fred so far is his much younger wife and child.
The OR is fast and furious. This is gonna get real f'n ugly -- on both sides of the aisle -- in the next wight or nine months. So stock up on popcorn.
Any genuine conservatives still planning to vote for this fraud?
Like it or not, in order to survive, the republican party must become the big tent party that Reagan talked of. Chasing out all who disagree will just end up putting the DEMOCRATS IN PERMANENT POWER!!!
HELLO!
Reagan DID NOT talk about any sort of “big tent” he believed in running on conservative values and winning. Read this speech of Reagan’s and see for yourself:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735897/posts
Nor did Reagan subscribe to any “commandment” about refraining from speaking negatively about other Republicans. Reagan was the ONLY Republican in modern times to challenge a sitting Republican president for the nomination and he did it because Ford was too liberal and pro-abortion in particular.
But hey, you keep drinking the Rooty Rooter Kool Aid and telling yourself that only Rooty can beat Hillary. But while you’re doing that, consider these little facts:
- If Rudy can beat Hillary, then why was he unwilling to run against her in 2000 and 2006? And forget all of this nonsense about recovering from cancer in 2000, because being mayor of NYC is more stressful than running for the senate.
- All of the Rooty Rooters act as if Hillary’s nomination is a foregone conclusion. However, the last non-incumbent (either president or vice president) Democrat who was the clear favorite a year out from the nomination to actually get nominated was Adlai Stevenson in 1952 and 1956. The last non-incumbent (either president or vice president) Democrat who was the clear favorite a year out from the nomination to actually get nominated and go on to win the election was Grover Cleveland in 1892. However, Cleveland is peculiar because he had previously served a term as president. So, the last non-incumbent (either president or vice president) Democrat who had never been president who was the clear favorite a year out from the nomination to actually get nominated and win the election was Andrew Jackson in 1828.
From what I’ve seen lately, most of the Rooty Rooter FReepers actually support Rooty because HIS LIBERAL VIEWS ARE TOTALLY IN LINE WITH THEIR OWN.
I don’t know alot about Fred but I saw a little of a speech he gave and thought it was pretty hum drum. And he looks a bit tired to me. Romney has more charisma and is very conservative.
That's what I told her, and that is my conclusion as well. All this jive about "he's the only one who can win against Hitlery" is just smoke. They know it. We know it. They just can't bear the thought of a real conservative running for (or winning!) the presidency.
They are one and all self proclaimed social liberals. I read some of tkathy's comments and she proclaimed herseld a social liberal. They have nothing but scorn and contempt for social conservatives; just like their hero Giuliani.
bill clinton had charisma some years ago, I still didn’t fall for him. I am looking at the issues, not the slickness of the candidate.
No genuine conservative will vote for Giuliani. Note wagglebee’s and my comments above.
They like him because they LIKE his values [sic]. This “he’s the only one who can win” is a lie and they know it, just like homosexual activists who used to use the “one in ten is gay” lie. They knew it was a lie but they used it to gain their ends. Same type of lie.
It is generally acknowledged that Hitler was extremely charismatic. Charisma is only positive if the person’s agenda is also positive.
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