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MSNBC, Politico Torpedoed Giuliani [Dick Morris Alert!!]
NewsMax ^ | May 5, 2007 | Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

Posted on 05/04/2007 9:57:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
His answers were strong: he faced the camera squarely, and scored big with his circa-2000 attacks on pork spending and special interests

Actually he look blatantly nervous. And his "pork-barrel" attack was an attack on the nation's technology future...attacking the LCS naval R&D project as "pork-barrel"...shows a commander as short-sighted as our enemies would want.

81 posted on 05/05/2007 10:05:19 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: calcowgirl
What a misrepresentation! Giuliani got more face time than any of the others, and he botched most of the questions, even the softballs.

Agreed.

Important questions? Giuliani should be thankful he wasn't asked about his stance on gun control!

Yup. That would have been his on-air suicide.

Or the constitution for that matter (oops... he was, and he botched that one too). Is Morris working for the Giuliani campaign now?

I think so. Interesting how the Big three spinmeisters are willing to lose credibility to claim their guy "won" in that which wasn't a debate.

82 posted on 05/05/2007 10:08:19 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: claudiustg

I think a Thompson-Romney or Romney-Thompson ticket is the answer...conservative and optomistic...articulate...both executive experience(Romney) and congressional experience (Thompson)...seem to be able to handle the media and possibly go OVER the media, something Reagan did and Bush has been unable to do.


83 posted on 05/05/2007 10:38:08 AM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: I still care

I agree that this “debate” was a total sham. As an earlier poster said, to have Matthews in charge of this is like having O’Reilly in charge of Fox debates....something not even thought of, yet the Breck girl and others won’t go on Fox because of supposed bias. The Republicans should be pointing out the difference....that they are not afraid to handle tough questions unlike the Dems who won’t appear on the highest rated cable news channel....they are pathetic...and they want to lead our country?


84 posted on 05/05/2007 10:41:20 AM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: cdnerds

If the questions were just all about that it wouldn’t be so bad. But when the questions are “how would you feel about Bill Clinton being back in the White House” and “What do you dislike about america”, it’s a waste of everybody’s time.


85 posted on 05/05/2007 11:15:38 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: calcowgirl

All you have to know about Morris is that, while he claims to be a republican, he was quite comfortable working in the Clinton administration and helping to get him re-elected.


86 posted on 05/05/2007 11:16:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: volunbeer

My theory on Morris is he’s the guy the Clintons pay to go out and bash them, because it keeps any serious person who would do so off the air. Morris is very BAD at attacking the clintons.

Why Hannity goes along with the charade, I don’t know. Seriously, don’t you think we have 10-20 real conservatives who would be much better at revealing why the Clintons are bad for the country?


87 posted on 05/05/2007 11:18:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Lancey Howard

McCain was working that as well, with his “I can work with Democrats, I’ve already done it many times” admission.

Of course, we already know how McCain likes to work with the democrats.


88 posted on 05/05/2007 11:19:27 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: calcowgirl

I’d love to see someone get Fred and Duncan on a show for 30 minutes to debate the issue of NAFTA and globalism.

Then I’d love to see Fred and Tom T. debate what to do with the illegals already living in this country.

My opinion — regardless of which side you think is right, Fred would win both debates. But I think we’d all be smarter for the exercise.

I wish there were shows on TV looking to make us smarter, rather than entertain us, in the political realm. All the political shows are meant to reinforce what we already believe, not to persuade people or have deep discussions of the issues.

I think Fred Thompson wants to have real discussions, and whether he wins or loses, if he can bring that to our presidential primary, he will do worlds of good for the Republican cause.


89 posted on 05/05/2007 11:23:42 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Henchster

Gilmore will have a problem because he is a 2nd-trimester pro-lifer. He had the honesty to say so in the debate, but a lot of pro-lifers are very uncomfortable with it, because it’s just drawing the line at another indefensible spot.

Actually, I don’t remember what week he uses, but I think it’s sometime after the heart beat starts (which is my absolute cut-off for accepting people as truly “pro-life”, meaning while I’m an “implantation” pro-lifer, I can stand to be with people who argue that a heart beat is their definition of life (on both ends of the spectrum).


90 posted on 05/05/2007 11:28:19 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I think we’d all be smarter for the exercise. I wish there were shows on TV looking to make us smarter, rather than entertain us, in the political realm.

Ditto that.

All the political shows are meant to reinforce what we already believe, not to persuade people or have deep discussions of the issues.

Really? I don't know. It seems to me that they they try to cloak their messages in feel-good familiar subjects, all the while feeding us things they want us to believe. No depth and low on facts. (Of course, my impressions may be based on totally different "political shows" than those you speak of.)

I think Fred Thompson wants to have real discussions, and whether he wins or loses, if he can bring that to our presidential primary, he will do worlds of good for the Republican cause.

I greatly hope that he wants to have real discussion. As to the rest, I totally agree.

91 posted on 05/05/2007 11:54:30 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’d love to see someone get Fred and Duncan on a show for 30 minutes to debate the issue of NAFTA and globalism.
Then I’d love to see Fred and Tom T. debate what to do with the illegals already living in this country.

Perhaps they could schedule those for the 4th of July. ;-)

92 posted on 05/05/2007 11:55:43 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: cdnerds; Sun; Paperdoll; pissant; WalterSkinner

Actually, the one who got the least amount of time of all 10 candidates PERIOD was Hunter, with only 5.5 minutes in total.


93 posted on 05/05/2007 12:15:09 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
..Morris was ridiculous on O'Reilly

Michelle Malkin couldn't believe some of his goofy analysis. But as long as Fox and newspapers keep paying this guy, his nonsense will continue to go forth.

94 posted on 05/05/2007 12:22:59 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In doing so, they paid homage to their Democratic Party masters by diminishing the candidate most likely to win in November.

Baloney. If the Toesucker had a clue he would be dangerous, but he doesn't.

Every time I see that bozo on Fox I have to wonder how he ever got a job as a political consultant in national-level politics.

95 posted on 05/05/2007 12:41:47 PM PDT by epow ( WARNING!! FREDHEAD FEVER IS CONTAGIOUS!! (I caught it just by loggng onto FR))
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To: Suzy Quzy

>I like Fred but his slow talking would not HAVE BEEN GOOD LAST NIGHT.<

I like Fred, too, but didn’t you mean “his slow, rambling and innocuous talking”?


96 posted on 05/05/2007 12:49:01 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
his proposals for gun confiscation, abortion funding, homosexual marriage and the like will be received as coming from a “conservative republican” rather than a liberal dem and will have a better chance of passing.

I agree, if he's elected on a Republican ticket Rudy could do more damage to our rights and liberties than either Hillary or Hussein Obama could. Moderate Pub Senators and Congresscritters would feel obligated to support his liberal social/cultural agenda, and Rinos in both houses would jump at the chance to do the same.

97 posted on 05/05/2007 1:03:44 PM PDT by epow ( WARNING!! FREDHEAD FEVER IS CONTAGIOUS!! (I caught it just by loggng onto FR))
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To: sageb1
lol! I really can’t stand Morris.

I think he is an agent provocateur and still working for the Clintons...

98 posted on 05/05/2007 4:38:15 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: L,TOWM
How in the hell can Morris, since he is so sure Chthullo gets the nomination for the 'rats, figure that the US is going to make that choice when offered a New York Liberal Attorney by both parties?

I say Morris is an agent provocateur and still working for the Clintons...

99 posted on 05/05/2007 4:41:17 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

So do I. I’ve said that here on numerous occasions.


100 posted on 05/05/2007 4:46:37 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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