“You still haven’t shown why calling me a bigot is any different than me calling you a moron.”
I never called you a bigot. I described what bigotry is; you have decided to apply the definition to yourself.
“Especially since you are yourself bigoted against people who believe as I do.”
As you are fond of saying, just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean I’m a bigot. Let’s be consistent, please.
“How can a religion EVER be good if at it’s root it calls for the enslavement and killing of kafir?”
I can ask the same question: how can a religion ever be good if it engages in burning at the stake, crusades, and torture in the name of God?
Yet these very acts let to the Reformation and Enlightenment. And it happened from within.
If we alienate the “good” Muslims, then this fight is lost. Our only hope at defeating the destructive ideologies that have twisted Islam is to embrace, support, and nurture those Muslims who call for moderation.
At the core, Muslims are just like Christians - they are human beings, and most of them just want to live a peaceful, happy life.
“You still haven’t shown why calling me a bigot is any different than me calling you a moron.”
[I never called you a bigot. I described what bigotry is; you have decided to apply the definition to yourself.]
Oh come now, at least be honest. You believe in your bigoted heart that I am a bigot. At least be honest enough to say it out loud instead of doing an imitation of Shirley Temple dancing around the subject. The only reason you are implying I’m a bigot instead of saying it is so you can score debating points.
“Especially since you are yourself bigoted against people who believe as I do.”
[As you are fond of saying, just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean I’m a bigot. Let’s be consistent, please.]
I’ve merely pointed out the absurdity of your position - i.e. that you first paint me as a bigot without realizing that makes you a bigot as well. The inconsistency first started in the bizarre microcosm YOU created - you are clearly bigoted against people whose religion says they should defend themselves against War Religions that kill innocent children for sport. Don’t kill the messenger for using your own logic to show you are a bigot of first order.
“How can a religion EVER be good if at it’s root it calls for the enslavement and killing of kafir?”
[I can ask the same question: how can a religion ever be good if it engages in burning at the stake, crusades, and torture in the name of God?]
Because Christ called for turning the other cheek - he never called for murdering the innocent. Not so Mohammed, who was himself a murderous sand pirate. Unjust killings are considered heretical in Christianity - for Islam that IS the religion. Islam MEANS to submit - or else!
“Yet these very acts let to the Reformation and Enlightenment. And it happened from within.”
Proving my point. A similar Reformation has not occured in Islam and there is no evidence of any movement in that direction.
“If we alienate the “good” Muslims, then this fight is lost. Our only hope at defeating the destructive ideologies that have twisted Islam is to embrace, support, and nurture those Muslims who call for moderation.”
Fine, go to a Muslim restaurant and order a shish kabab. But giving credence to a murderous religion by voting for a “token” Islamic president isn’t in the cards.
“At the core, Muslims are just like Christians - they are human beings, and most of them just want to live a peaceful, happy life.”
So, give up your own son’s and daughters to live with them if they are so great. But count me and mine out of your delusion.