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To: sevenbak; FastCoyote
No, it's not a vague question. You brought up the first vision and what God told Joseph Smith. I'm asking you the same question. Do you feel that all Churches are created equal and provide "one Lord, one faith and one baptism? Are they all preaching the same gospel of Jesus Christ?

"The Spirit clearly says that in later times SOME will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." (1 Tim. 4:1)

We would agree on apostasy if we were both in unity with the Holy Spirit. Apostasy is prophesied by the Holy Spirit through Paul. Only it's partial apostasy: "SOME will abandon the faith." (You're not calling the Holy Spirit a liar are you? Especially when He could have just as easily said "all" or "total"?

"Jesus answered: 'Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, and will deceive many.'" (Matt 24:4-5)

Slapping "Jesus Christ" on to a building doesn't necessarily make it sourced in Him, as both Matt 24 and the LDS church both show. I believe it was Fast Coyote who said this week: Creating a new group called, "Democrats of the United States and Jesus Christ" doesn't mean that the Democrats are "out" as the viable party and the new restoration group is "in."

373 posted on 05/04/2007 10:54:38 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Well, at least you came half way and acknowledged apostasy. Because we believe that all direct authority of God was lost with the death of the Apostles, I understand why you are so offended. There are many many millions who are not offended and recognize truth as inspired and given from the Holy Ghost.

Since you quoted the D&C on this topic, let me give you one more to chew on...

D&C 123:2 For there are many yet on the earth among all sects, parties, and denominations, who are blinded by the subtle craftiness of men, whereby they lie in wait to deceive, and who are only kept from the truth because they know not where to find it—

379 posted on 05/04/2007 11:04:45 PM PDT by sevenbak (A LIE travels around the world while the TRUTH is still putting on its boots -Winston Churchill)
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To: Colofornian; sevenbak; FastCoyote
Slapping "Jesus Christ" on to a building doesn't necessarily make it sourced in Him, as both Matt 24 and the LDS church both show.

In regards to a name making something Christian, is The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) twice as Christian because Christ is in the name twice?

413 posted on 05/05/2007 6:53:47 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I'm proud to be a FREDHEAD. Run Fred Run!)
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