Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
That excerpt was from FEBRUARY 2007!!!!!!!!!!
He's avoiding the issue as recent as February 2007 for crying out loud!
Today’s winner of the Strunk & White Prize...
In 2007, some people portray themselves as “victims” of “bigotry” in the evil US. Those people almost always demean our nation by invoking slavery and blabbing about how “Native Americans were forced from their lands”. If the United States is so horrible, why would a billionaire run for President? If elected, he’ll have to live for four years in a cheaper house located in a less pleasant neighborhood.
I know what it takes to be a “real” religion. A thousand year history of political oppression, serfdom and slavery littered with hundreds of thousands of corpses. LOL!
Well written but its premise is slightly off base....
The assumption that evangelical Christians are the primary source of animus to Romney is not necessarily true.
More liberals are screaming about his “Mormon” faith and values.....
True conservative Christians aren’t.
“By the way, why wasn’t this an issue when LDS-er Mo Udall ran against Carter in ‘76 (coming in 2nd)?”
Same reason it’s not an issue for Harry Reid. He was on the right side of the issues. That little “D” makes all the difference in the world.
“You are right about the drive-by media. They hate Mormons and are using animosity to Mormons exhibited by the so-called Christian right to thumb their noses at all of us. It’s a sick game and unfortunately, IMHO, the religious right has fallen into the trap.”
I haven’t had time to read this whole thread carefully,and maybe it’s mentioned, but don’t the mainstream media have the highest regard for Harry Reid, the Mormon? They conveniently overlook his religion.
You have to be kidding....there was a hatred for Catholics and especially Irish Catholics in Massachusetts to the point where jobs ads were posted with "no Irish need apply" in newspapers and at the hiring companies.
Research the "No Nothings." They amended the Massachusetts constitution...and their anti Catholic poison is still there.
I have some very large hang-ups with Mormonism - their history, their teachings, and such- BUT:
I would trust a Mormon in the White House FAR more than a closet Muzzie (like Osama-Obama), and ANY of the Dem’s candidates.
Further, even though I have those major problems with their theology - they have some things right - the importance of the family, love of country, pro-life, and generally most practicing Mormons are very conservative.
Now that being said, Romney is not my favorite candidate (or possible candidate - www.fred08.com), but he is head and shoulders above most announced candidates.
Mitt is not my first choice, but this Southern Baptist could vote for him, and I am definitely mainstream
“...it is likely that Mormons killed more gentiles than that in the single incident of Mountain Meadows.”
Mountain Meadows is a tragic, despicable incident with no excuse. Over a hundred people lost their lives.
I don’t have exact figures either, but between the persecutions and the process of fleeing them, the number of Mormons killed was in the thousands. Add to that the numerous times that the Mormons were beaten, assaulted, robbed, and had their property confiscated.
Oh, great. Another Mormon thread. Just what Free Republic needs, another fur ball!
“And anyone who would vote for someone just because they are LDS has no principles.”
That’s true. (full disclosure: I’m LDS.)
When I was a Mormon (35 - 40 years ago), we didn't try to pretend that we were just another Christian Church like the Methodists or the Baptists. We were, in fact, the ONLY TRUE CHURCH and all other Churches were in a state of Apostasy.
Since I left there has been a tendency by the LDS Church to portray itself as just another (but superior) Protestant denomination and the tendency has been to shy away from publicly proclaiming the peculiar (and downright weird) doctrines of Mormonism, and to attempt to portray the LDS Church as a mainline protestant denomination with a strong emphasis on Family.
But when one closely examines the peculiar doctrines of Mormonism one must come to the conclusion that the Jesus that Mormons believe in bears little resemblance to the Jesus of Historical Christianity.
The Mormons believe that theirs is the only true church and all others are false. So if someone points out using scripture and logic that the LDS Church is not really a Christian Church, does that make them a bigot?
The LDS Church is a nice family oriented organization. It is not a Christian Church. Not by any historical definition of the word. If the Mormon Church is true, then all other Churches are false. If any of the other "Christian" Churches is true, then Mormonism is false.
That being said, I would have no problem voting for a conservative Republican for president who happened to be a Mormon. The jury is still out as to whether or not Romney is that guy.
Yes, they would be loons, and I say that as a member of the church. I would hope that Mormons wouldn't be so narrow minded. We're voting for President, not Bishop!
No Nothings = Know Nothings.
“So, I suppose anyone who doesn’t support Romney is an anti-Mormon bigot?”
No, anyone who doesn’t support Romney BECAUSE he is a Mormon is an anti-Mormon bigot.
“If I don’t vote for him it will have nothing to do with him being a LDS member.”
I’m glad that you aren’t in the above-mentioned group.
Just as I thought! Got your nose a little out of joint.
“The “Mormon issue” seems to be more important to the drive-by media than to the grass-roots Republican voters.”
I agree. The pattern I’ve been seeing in the last few weeks is that the genuine bigotry is really pretty isolated amongst the base.
I think the MSM is playing with fire if they harp on the religion issue. There’s a very strong possibility of backlash.
Prior to the supreme court edict Roe v. Wade, it was an issue for the states. I see no inconsistency in his position here.
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