Posted on 05/02/2007 6:13:46 PM PDT by kronos77
Putin and his crowd has already thought about him being ‘Czar for life’.
I am interested in the history of the Russians, first invading Afghanistan, then getting defeated and booted out, thanks to the support of Ronald Reagan against those bastard’s Evil Empire.
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Exactlly!
And mow same thing, same place, different positions!
Rssia is doing to US same thing Reagan was doing to Soviets.
And I hate that.
It takes a few years to build coal and nuke plants
Russian strategy:
The big plan is that US looses the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Major enemy is not Russia as much as Dems back in the US.
Democrates are acctualy the ones that get US involved in all local wars and than, playing peace activists while Republicans are trying to clean up the sht that Democrates did.
EU is no longer ally of US, nor NATO is. In near future they will try to get wery friendly with Russia and Latino countries, in order to economicaly cutt-off US from rest of the world.
Than if US economy is affected, US will need to choose to cutt-down military, possibly abandoning navy, scaling-down Airforce etc.
EU and Russia will play ethnicity card, as NATo did in Balkans, devidind Americans upon they skin color or religionb. First, they will ask for rights of “Mexicans” in “Occupied South West” or “Aztlan”, claiming that Mexicans are majority and that Americans are abusing them (US strategy against Serbs), than Eu and Russia will get Soros and other bastards on their side, if not allready, securing his an him alikes their own personal gains, profite and cash.
Than Eu and Russia will fund some terrorist... sorry “Liberation Army” in Southern States of US, claiming that “Black majority is abused by white minority in US” (American strategy against serbs in Kosovo, Bosnia” and EU and Russia will demand that all power is given to “Black people” in Southern states. That will be the end of US if US dosent try to make Russians friendly.
And if this diabolical plan works, Missile shield sites in Poland and Czechia, will stand asMaginot line stands now... forrgotten.
US must seek real allies and not Estonians and simmilar. Only Poles are real allies of US in Europe but they are not politicaly or military strong enough to change tide. WOT cannot be won just by US and UK, and Poland. It is global war and needs to be fought with global allies.
Can you all imagine US saying in WWII “The hell with Stalin, he is commie bastard, we dont need him, just us and UK will win war against Hitler!” !?
I cant.
The second and joint course of counter Kremlin measures must be leadership from the White House and NATO quickly cutting through the deliberate congressional red tape from the sellout Dems and get are defensive missile shield in every new NATO nation up and down the borders of Putin's evil empire.
Each time Moscow steps over the line directing Putin's wrath at former Eastern E.U. nations, which were enslaved by the Russians for far too long, we must tighten the screws urging all NATO members not purchase Moscow's exports. Obviously it is mandatory Washington needs to take the lead, setting the #1 participatory example in slapping any economic repercussions on the Russians for their aggressive acts. I would not take any bets on the economic aspects I have mentioned, unless Putin invaded a bordering free nation, slaughtering thousands in the process. In other words applying enforceable and meaning economic sanctions is beyond a long shot.
In early Map of 1945, once the Krauts had surrendered, Allied forces should have continued Eastward from Berlin. General Patton had the keen insight to foresee, the communist Evil Empire controlled by Stalin was the new threat the West would confront. Patton was totally justified in his overview, and the world paid the price for not adhering to his advice.
“The first course of counter measures must be to remove Moscow’s most valuable geostrategic proxies in the Middle & Near East in that of Russian armed Iran on Iraq’s eastern border and Russian armed Syria, on Iraq’s western border. American and Coalition troops are being murdered by Iranian and Syrian trained jihadist killers, not forgetting the Wahhabist Sunni terrorist funded by Saudi Arabia plus scores of other Sunni controlled Arab/Muslim régimes.”
“In early Map of 1945, once the Krauts had surrendered, Allied forces should have continued Eastward from Berlin. General Patton had the keen insight to foresee, the communist Evil Empire controlled by Stalin was the new threat the West would confront. Patton was totally justified in his overview, and the world paid the price for not adhering to his advice.”
That would be suicidal. If you just remember that Hitler allmost crushed Allies at Ardennes with handful of tanks, what could be expected from Russian IS-3 and T-34 tanks?
US nuked Japan to avoid 100,000 casulties that were expected if Japan was to be invaded, casulties against Soviets, would be much higher, that about “continuing eastwards” is merely an urban legen of those days.
You are correct America unfortunately & continues being hooked on imported Middle Eastern (Islamic) oil, however there has been minor progress to alter that energy dependent condition, some 30 years too late, but nevertheless, attempts are underway to gear toward alternative energy sources.
In terms of the Saudis, my own opinion is the Wahhabist Islamic cultist controlling the oil rich nation are not our friends and are actively funding various Sunni related terrorist groups and wars, plus the fact the Arabian régime heavily finances at least 80% on new mosques in the Western world. Fifteen of the nineteen September 11th hijackers were Saudi nationals and all were crazed WahHabists.
"Missile shield is stupidity that will en u as maginot line in France, that money could be spent in conventional weapon system, booletproof wests, replacing of M16 with new rifle, replacement of 5,56 with stronder round etc. Democrates are cancer of US, and cant be removed."
The Eastern Europeans are confronted with multi potential missile threats from Iran, Syria, Putin's Russia, and even from North Korea, contingent on the various ranges of that communist state's offensive nuclear missile capabilities, thus the defensive 'missile shield' the most advanced mobile AMB system is indeed needed as well as upgrades in conventional weapon systems. Relating to your comment on "the Democrats are cancer of US, and cant be removed." Yes, they are a cancer, they have a slim majority in the House but that current majority can be altered through future elections.
"Russian export of stretegic products (oil and gas) is keeping EU alive. That is all about. Germany, France, Utaly are dependant on Russian oil and gas (Italy signet deal with Putin 14 days ago) and no such mesures will ever be taken. US lost NATO as an ally. Even if West inposes embargo on Russia, it will cause dessaster for West economy. Power shortages, reduction of economy, job lossess, while Russia will orientate to sell to China and India."
Russia's recent history of energy blackmail should be serious warning for E.U. leaders. that becoming dependent on Moscow for free flowing energy requirements is not only foolish by potentially dangerous for the nation security of each E.U. nation.
NATO forces are working well in Afghanistan so I do not understand why you say 'the U.S. has lost NATO'. granted amongst various left leaning E.U. heads of state, sure there is rabid anti-Americanism on a variety of issues. If the updated polls are correct at least France will not be dragged under control of yet another far Leftist in Sunday's election results. The French socialists will be defeated, according to the polls.
Getting back to the increasing problems with Russia. What course of attack would you recommend when Putin's Kremlin steps over the line again? Recall, only issuing verbal condemnations of Russian aggression will encourage the neo-Soviets to test the West even further. The Russians respect what they are in the habit of dishing out, which is force, not hollow diplomatic corp speeches.
They merely serve Russia's interests. They are traitors and will serve the interests of any and all of America's enemies. Russia's strategy hasn't changed at all since the cold war. They've always supported all our enemies and they always will. Russia will NEVER be our ally in the war on Terror. Russia is THE ENEMY in the War on Terror! Russia is exactly who has to be defeated for America to survive. We will defeat them, just like we defeated them before! All their pet democrats in the USA couldn't stop the collapse of their beloved Soviet Union, and they won't stop the collapse of Russia either. Russia has proved that it must be destroyed and broken apart just like the Soviet Union was, and that's exactly what we are going to do to them. You think we can't? Just watch!
Pitting muslims against other muslims is indeed a good idea.
My favourite. Chechen (pro-Russian) president Kadirov is muslim bastard, hug and criminal, former Chechen rebell and terrorist. And he hates Chechen rebells guts!
Russia captured him in 90es and amde him most faithfull dog, he showed to be brutal and sneaky bastard in clashes with rebells/terrorists.
Actually, Litvinenko before being shot, was investigating “warcrimes against Chechens” commited by Kadirov
Iraq-Iran war in 80es? Man, that was best of all! Wish it lasted for couple of decades...
thug, not hug :) typo, sorry.
- Problem is actual confrontation with Russia.
- To defend from US actions, and gain allies, Russia is supporting Iranian Bastards, aswell as NKorean bastard.
- To gain oil and friends in Gulf and region, USA is supporting maniacal regime in Riyad, and ONLY Islamic nuclear nation- Pakistan
Victimes:
Serbia and Israel.
-In order to appease Muslims, USA is supporting Kosovo Muslim Albanians, and more reacently, wehhabi terrorist directly funded by US-ally, Saudi Arabia in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Serbia propper.
- In order also to appease Muslims in region, USA is forcing Israel to negotiate, denyign Israelis “first strike” option and restrainging IDF actions, also forcing Israel (much like Serbia) to ceede territories to Muslims.
- On Balkans, Russia have no Muslim allies to appease, therefore have paved way for support Serbia (as much as I would like USA to support us)
- in Middle East, Russia is trying to restrain US influence, and in general is controling Arab terrorists, but not in full control. Also, Arab terrorists are in same manner controled more by Saudis (US allies) and other bastards.
My prognossis is that Israel lost its confidence in US, (A.Sharon openly asked when US attacked Serbia in 1999 “Are we next, Is Israel going to be bembed if Arabs ask more land?” and it is very possible that Israel will finaly seek support in Russia. that would be very possible and that US go openly anti-Israely to appease Muslim allies. Why not? Serbia was ally to USA in 2 world wars, but... and Israel was, newer ally of USA.
With more Russian gripping of power, and EU allying to Russia (even just economical, EU wont ewer go anti-Russian, in same way US will newer go anti-Saudi), USA will be forced to become openly pro-muslim.
Russia.
If Muslims continue to breed like they do in EU, Christians will be minority wery soon, and abandoned by their own gowerment (Poland is only Christian country, wall maybe Bulgaria aswell- in EU) most of EU Christians will look upon Russia, maybe dictatorship and sneaky, but as only aid and help. much as Eastern Europe looked upon US for help.
And third victime of New Cold war will be Poland.
Sorrounded by hostile nations (Germany and their Bellarus/Russian frinds) and bypassed by most oil/gas corridors (new goes Russia-Germanyavoiding poland across baltic, Poland is not as much Pro-European country as mu as pro-US.
So, Inbetween EU and Russia, Poland is likley to be politicaly and afterwards economically isolated with US too far to act in aid.
Just remember september of 1939, when it neighbours did to poland with UK and France doing nothing...
Preludes to war.
This looks to me as Russia working itself into a frenzy to justify retaking the breakaway Soviet republics.
Moment that US invades Iran (and I hope you kill all of those Iranian bastards)Russians will dance in joy!
Another war without end, with american dying...
heeey...
Thing is that US is doing exactly what Russia wans US to do. Overstreaching its forces, suffering casulties, creating enemies, loosing friends...
After 5 years of occupation of Iran (2012 if invasion starts this year) how many americans will die? will there be a acceptable endwar? my 2012 do you see France, Germany, Itally as US allies in Iran? I dont.
My point is that tere isnt real WOT, WOT means “Kill all muslim terrorists, Saudis, Iraqis, Iranians, Pakis” but US is saying, OKI, tohe are bad Islamic bastards (Iraq, Iran, Talibans) and those are good Islamic bastards (Saudis, Pakistanians etc”.
It is just like Petting Hitler to fight Mussolini! Either yoe kill them all either you loose.
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