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For an 82 year old geezer.... he makes some pretty good points.
1 posted on 05/02/2007 10:04:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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“Then, instead of taking the quickest route back to Washington and immediately going on the air to reassure the panicked people of this country, he decided it wasn’t safe to return to the White House.”

This isn’t a good point. It’s SOP. I was sick and tired of hearing this repeatedly back in 2001.

31 posted on 05/02/2007 10:30:18 AM PDT by PCBMan (Designing circuit boards using stone knives and bearskins.)
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Good points?

Lee Iacocco is a big whiner.

Yuk...can't stand him.

34 posted on 05/02/2007 10:31:29 AM PDT by what's up
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“The President of the United States is given a free pass to ignore the Constitution, tap our phones, and lead us to war on a pack of lies. Congress responds to record deficits by passing a huge tax cut for the wealthy (thanks, but I don’t need it). The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we’re fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving pom-poms instead of asking hard questions.”

No need to read further. This senile old man is living in bizarro world. He has everything reversed. It is sad really.


37 posted on 05/02/2007 10:34:32 AM PDT by CSM ("Americans only want the word freedom. The practice of freedom disgusts them." - mysterio 3/30/2007)
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The last paragraph sounds like Lee, but not anything before that...

Lee is a salesman by temperment and training. He's made enough mistakes in his life to keep himself busy.

38 posted on 05/02/2007 10:37:13 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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Hey, I thought Iacocca was going to give us 9-steps the president should take.

Instead, he just complained about President Bush. Iacocca
must like Pelosi’s leadership, LOL.


41 posted on 05/02/2007 10:47:38 AM PDT by donna (Men are the new women.)
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...we can't even clean up after a hurricane...

This is wrong, and stupid, and evil on many levels.

42 posted on 05/02/2007 10:47:42 AM PDT by rogue yam
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“...don’t tell me it’s all the fault of right-wing Republicans or liberal Democrats.”

...and then he goes on to BLAST President Bush about EVERYTHING.

This guy belongs in the glue factory.


43 posted on 05/02/2007 10:49:39 AM PDT by KingRonnie9
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Thomas Jefferson once said, "Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate for a moment to prefer the latter."

He also said "I read no newspaper now but Ritchie's, and in that chiefly the advertisements, for they contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper." - Thomas Jefferson Letter to Nathaniel Macon January 12 1819.

Why should the President sit down and read the NY Times' spin on what is happening with the war when he can call up a general instead? Why should he read what USA Today's said about Dr. Rice's latest statement when he can talk to her directly? Why should he read the Washington Post's version of a leaked intelligence memo when he can just read the original DNC talking points on it? Modern day "journalism" has fallen so far back into it's history of yellow journalism that there isn't much to be gained from it anymore.

46 posted on 05/02/2007 10:55:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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Iacocca sounds like the Webmaster over at Moveon.org.


50 posted on 05/02/2007 11:11:15 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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Where are the voices of leaders who can inspire us to action and make us stand taller?

He’s a stumble bum who never spent enough of his fortune to hire an expert to help him (1.) Formulate his thoughts before he speaks, and (2.) Speak clearly, thinking before stumbling around looking for words, and (3.) get over the stupid accent.

Otherwise, he COULD have been a leader. Life turns on seemingly small things.


54 posted on 05/02/2007 11:29:25 AM PDT by hardworking (Being a rapist is one thing, but cheating at golf? Are you sure you want Bubba in the W.H.?)
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I thought he was dead.


55 posted on 05/02/2007 11:38:23 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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He sees reality clearly. Today's 'leaders' are those selected by those who want to control Washington. Ideas of potential candidates are not allowed to challenge. They are culled out of debates or never allowed to appear.

Incompetentcy in politics and business are rewarded with promotions or golden parachutes. Our business leaders are without innovation and succeed only by outsourcing America. Our end result is a campaign between Clinton and Giuliani - a more worthless choice for America can't be imagined.

56 posted on 05/02/2007 12:00:05 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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I didn’t know Iacocca was such a lib.


58 posted on 05/02/2007 12:03:16 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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“You might think I’m getting senile, that I’ve gone off my rocker” – Uhm, yep.

“They say I have a reputation as a straight shooter” – No. you have a reputation of driving corporations to bankruptcy and coercing the federal government to bail you out with my money!

“Where have all the leaders gone?”

“They are being dumbed down by the public schools.
They are being held back by affirmative action quotas.
They are discriminated against by liberals for their principles, character and work ethic.
They are in the schools, factories, home. They are here.
They are in the military, they are in the Churches, they are here but are ignored by the MSM, liberals and America....and thus silenced.” (Well said - thanks for the quote)

“A leader has to show CURIOSITY. […] George W. Bush brags about never reading a newspaper.”

A nonsensical canard. The newspapers published in this country are typically unfit to line birdcages or catch puppy poop. There is no reason for anyone, more or less the leader of the free world, to read or trust them. The President gets daily briefings from people that actually have facts, not the opinions expressed in the MSM. I’d rather him lead based on those.

“A leader has to COMMUNICATE. […] After years of being told that all is well, even as the casualties and chaos mount, we’ve stopped listening to him.”

Unfortunately this opinion, and all of the nonsense associated with it, is founded on the wholesale bullshit shoveled out by the MSM and left-wing radicals. No, the war in Iraq isn’t going swimmingly but it’s not nearly as bad as the media and the left want us to believe. I’ve talked to (emailed with, really) troops on the ground. I know what’s real and none of that is represented in the papers.

“A leader has to be a person of CHARACTER. That means knowing the difference between right and wrong and having the guts to do the right thing.”

Even when idiots who haven’t got a clue (the media, liberals and others) are telling you that right is wrong. Like it or not the war in Iraq was necessary and is a part of the overall war against global terrorism and islamo-fascism.

“A leader must have COURAGE. […] Courage is a commitment to sit down at the negotiating table and talk.

No, courage is knowing when talk is not going to work and knowing that only war will. Who, pray tell, should Bush be talking to? Maybe we should send Lee out to chat with Osama Bin Ladin. I’m sure his beheading would make a popular youtube video.

“To be a leader you’ve got to have CONVICTION” – So pursuing an unpopular but necessary war faced with public disapproval doesn’t constitute conviction? What does?

“A leader should have CHARISMA” - Bush has enough to get elected twice. Not a lot, mind you, but enough.

A leader has to be COMPETENT. […] Thanks to our first MBA President, “

“we’ve got the largest deficit in history”

Not true.

“Social Security is on life support”

Social Security is a liberal wealth-redistribution program. It should be scrapped altogether. Bush tried to fix it but was rebuffed by Congress – mostly by liberals.

“we’ve run up a half-a-trillion-dollar price tag (so far) in Iraq.”

Which is nothing compared to the tens of trillions wasted on worthless and downright illegal government programs and jobs: Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the NEA and on and on.

This war has been cheap as compared to the alternative. I wouldn’t count on a liberal to understand that, though.

“You can’t be a leader if you don’t have COMMON SENSE”

Bush may be lacking some, but dimocrats have absolutely none.

I’ve covered this before, but here’s the typical democrat’s way of thinking:

How to cure poverty: Steal from productive members of society and pay unproductive types to sit on their asses. – This only encourages poverty and expands the welfare roles.

How to cure discrimination: Discriminate against a different group of people.

How to deal with global terrorism and a bloc that wants every American dead? – try them in the courts. That’ll fix ‘em!

Any group of people who believes that the government is a solution and not the problem has proven that they have absolutely no common sense. Period.

“The Biggest C is Crisis Leaders are made, not born”

The above followed up by a steaming pile of Michael Moore based manure - deleted for brevity. The President did little wrong on 9/11 or 9/12 and he did far, far better than any democrat would have under the same circumstances.

Under the same circumstances the insane idol Algore would still be sitting on the floor in a corner rocking back and forth in a pool of his own urine while mumbling incoherently. We may not have had the best leader in place on that fateful day, but we had the better of our choices; without a doubt.

“Where have all the leaders gone?” Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, competence, and common sense?”

They are still around, but none are stupid enough to get into politics. They’d have to deal with the idiots on the left and in the media and there’s no overcoming that.

“Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?”

Me – start profiling terrorists and stop taking infants and grandmothers aside for strip-searches. Allow pilots, flight crews and private citizens with CCWs to board aircraft with their firearms. How long do you think the next hijacking would last if even a couple of passengers and/or crew were armed?

“Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina.”

None and none needed to. It is not the government’s place to intervene in situations like this. If you’re stupid enough to live on a flood plain and not have insurance and not leave when you’re told then good riddance.

“Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing.”

Again, me. Here’s the answer: destroy the unions now and allow corporations to hire people competitively once again. When our manufacturing giants are paying a realistic wages (as opposed to $65/hour to screw in a bolt) again they’ll be competitive. When people can be fired from their now union jobs for incompetence the quality of our products will go up.

Also, lower taxes dramatically across the board. Our current 40%+ tax rate is an anchor dragging on the economy. Gut the government, dispose of all of the unconstitutional, inefficient and useless programs and let the people keep their money. That’s how to succeed.

“Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debt”

Me again. See above. Eliminate all socialist programs, Cut spending to the bone and then cut it in half every four years for a couple of decades. The debt will be gone in no time.

“solving the energy crisis”

This has nothing to do with the government.

“managing the health care problem”

Again, not in the government’s purview.

“these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry”

No, it’s liberal wealth redistribution programs doing that. These “crises” are just a symptom - if that.

“Hey, I’m not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here.”

But you’re succeeding in being the voice of sheer stupidity.

“Whether it’s building a better car”

You mean like the Reliant K?

“Let’s tell ‘em all we’ve had enough.”

I’ve been saying that we’ve had enough of liberalism/socialism/communism for years. I’ll keep saying it, too, until morons like you just go away.


59 posted on 05/02/2007 12:18:29 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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One more C... crap. When was this exlax inspired screed written? 2005?


64 posted on 01/05/2008 9:16:27 AM PST by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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