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Giuliani Does Have A Prayer In The South
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 5/2/07 | Marsha Mercer

Posted on 05/02/2007 6:04:11 AM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON -- Everybody said Rudy Giuliani would be about as appealing in the South as a three-day-old bagel.

The former mayor of New York is a Yankee who has been married three times and supports gay rights and abortion rights.

But he drew an "overflow" crowd when he spoke to the Alabama Legislature last month, according to The Associated Press. He's campaigning in Georgia and South Carolina and dropped by a conference in North Carolina last week. He's going back to Alabama May 9.

On Giuliani's Web site, joinrudy2008.com, there's a link to a blog by David Brody, a political reporter for CBN, the Christian news network. He warns it would be a mistake to rule Giuliani out.

Apparently on a first-name basis with Giuliani, Brody writes, "Rudy's message on social issues may hurt him in the Bible Belt, but he has other factors that play well." And he linked to a video clip of a couple of guys singing Lynryd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" on a TV talent show.

Whoa.

Many political observers who once assumed Giuliani didn't have a prayer in the conservative South are reconsidering.

It's an uphill battle to be sure, but Giuliani's message of fiscal conservatism and being tough on terrorism sells in the region -- even if his support for state gun control regulations doesn't.

During last year's campaign, he was the star attraction at a fundraiser for Ralph Reed, the former Christian Coalition head who was running for lieutenant governor of Georgia. Reed lost, but Giuliani is back in the South, campaigning for himself this time.

In his speech April 10 to the Alabama Legislature, Giuliani wrapped himself in the Reagan legacy -- he was No. 3 in the Reagan Justice Department. He insisted he will not shift positions with the wind but, like Reagan, will set a course and stick with it. And, he promised to cut taxes.

Giuliani, who leads the pack of GOP presidential hopefuls in polls and fundraising, would be the strongest Republican in a general election, political scientists say. The question is whether he can persuade the party's conservative base to give him the chance.

Touting his post-9/11 leadership in New York, Giuliani ripped a page from President Bush's 2004 playbook last week and charged that his Democratic competitors would be weak in the fight against terrorism.

A Democratic president will let up on that fight, prolonging it at a cost of more American lives, he said in New Hampshire. The country would be better off electing a Republican -- namely himself.

Democratic contenders Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards all responded vigorously, a sign that they take Giuliani seriously.

So do some Southern politicians. Among them is Sen. David Vitter, R-La., who wrote in a letter to the editor of the Shreveport Times that, after prayer and consideration, he is backing Giuliani.

"Even with all the international threats we face," Vitter wrote, "we'll sleep soundly at night with Rudy in the White House."

"And," he said, "while I may disagree with Rudy on some issues that are very important to me, I am confident he's the right man for the job."

What makes Giuliani palatable is his assurance to Vitter and others that he'll appoint judges who are strict constitutionalists and won't "legislate from the bench."

One major factor in Giuliani's favor is the new, front-loaded primary election calendar. New York, New Jersey and California now are among the many states holding primaries Feb. 5.

Political scientist Merle Black of Emory University says that Giuliani likely will win New York and New Jersey, and if he wins California, too, that day, he could be unstoppable. If Giuliani wins the top slot, he'll pick someone like the actor and former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee as his running mate to balance the ticket, Black said.

Giuliani knows many Republicans won't agree with him on everything.

"I will tell you what I believe. If you agree with it, fine. If you don't agree with it, you have a right not to agree with it," he told the Alabama Legislature. "If you don't agree, you have a right not to vote for me."



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To: areafiftyone

Yeah, here it is:

Lord please send this Yankee Liberal back home, in Jesus’ name.
Amen.


41 posted on 05/02/2007 6:54:08 AM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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To: Jake The Goose

I can’t see why he wouldn’t eat grits unless he didn’t like Polenta as a kid. If you don’t like Polenta you won’t like Grits.


42 posted on 05/02/2007 6:56:20 AM PDT by areafiftyone (.....We mourn and hurt and will never forget, but we don't live under fear.... Rudy Giuliani)
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To: garv

Well - allow me to go against my own use of polls.

I don’t know where McCain is popular in S.C. - but it ain’t in my neck of the woods.

That poll is a total shock - goes against everything I see and hear on a daily basis.

It’s like someone saying that Graham is popular in South Carolina - or Inglis.....

NOPE


43 posted on 05/02/2007 6:57:01 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone
It's an uphill battle to be sure, but Giuliani's message of fiscal conservatism and being tough on terrorism sells in the region -- even if his support for state gun control regulations doesn't.

Kentucky's 1st district, in 1994, voted in a republican for the first time since the civil war because our dem rep voted to bring the bill out of committee (even though he voted against it on the floor; we're smart enough to catch on to things like that around here) which then passed. Some things in the south simply will not be abided; gun control is one of them.

A man hobnobbing with a bunch of pols in a state legislature a presidential candidate does not make.
44 posted on 05/02/2007 6:57:25 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: areafiftyone
rudy has a chance in the south?
LOL
Is someone trying to sell that bridge again?
45 posted on 05/02/2007 6:57:51 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: areafiftyone

I think it’s the word Polenta.

Sounds funky.

Maybe that’s it - GRITS - it is not an appealing word.


46 posted on 05/02/2007 6:58:34 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone
We will see. From the look of things it looks like Edwards will sweep the south not a Republican.

No, he's too much of a nancy boy. Southerners despise that in people who are allegedly men.
47 posted on 05/02/2007 6:58:38 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: expatguy
He is an arrogant cross-dressing Yankee who supports abortion and special rights for homosexuals.

BTTT lol

48 posted on 05/02/2007 6:59:09 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: From One - Many

I am selling that bridge.

FYI - Rudy is the keynote speaker at The Citadel’s graduation this year.

The Citadel is hardly given to inviting liberals to it’s parade ground.


49 posted on 05/02/2007 7:00:03 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
sorry, you can't sell a bridge like rudy in the south
I'll look for you as rudy loses, in the south....
50 posted on 05/02/2007 7:01:11 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: From One - Many

Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, is scheduled to appear at The Citadel, a state-supported military college in South Carolina, another key primary state. The school has asked Giuliani to speak about “principled leadership,” said Charlene Gunnells, a spokeswoman for the school. Last year, Citadel’s commencement speaker was Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.


51 posted on 05/02/2007 7:02:12 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
He's not a wuss.

Neither is Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter.
52 posted on 05/02/2007 7:02:13 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: All

Marsha Mercer knows NOTHING about the south. This article is from WASHINGTON STATE!

Hers is the identical ignorant attitude which puts out a few bails of hey and things that makes them souther.

Bet she is impressed with Hillaries southern accent.

Guiliani’s problems are NOT his marriages, they are his left wing beliefs.

Why else would he, PER C-SPAN, this morning, have microfiled “all” his mayoral documents without any index. Essentially he had his records microfished in no particular order with no pattern.

Guiliani is hiding his NYC state of mind.


53 posted on 05/02/2007 7:03:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JamesP81

I agree with you.

Fred Thomson - has a solid chance to win the nomination.

Duncan Hunter - reminds me of my angry older uncle - no chance. Nice man - right on the issues - no chance.


54 posted on 05/02/2007 7:04:21 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
Your vote is the POWER of you - never ever say walk away.

And one of the powers of that vote is the power to withhold it.
55 posted on 05/02/2007 7:04:27 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: areafiftyone

Dear God, ANYONE that can beat Hitlery and Osama, I mean Obama, is fine with me...ANYONE!!


56 posted on 05/02/2007 7:06:01 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: longtermmemmory
"His eight years as mayor of New York were the most successful episode of conservative governance in this country in the last 50 years."

- George Will (a remowned liberal I suppose ???)

57 posted on 05/02/2007 7:06:12 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: RoseofTexas

Right - EXACTLY...

Rudy - Fred - Mitt - Duncan......

Let simply have to work through the process - pick the nominee - come together - and WIN


58 posted on 05/02/2007 7:07:22 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
I would not object to seeing the GOP pendulum swing more toward the center - and away from a strict social conservative mantel.

What you seem to be calling the "center" was not long ago the far left.

What we really need are some radical conservatives to balance the left-wing radicals out there who have so long bandied their insanity about that people think they are merely liberals.

Rudy loses. Guns, Gays, Abortion, and immigration, and not necessarily in that order. The first is a Constitutional Right (which shall not be infringed), the second is not, the third is murder, and the last is a Constitutional obligation to secure our borders from foreign invasion.

As for being tough on terrorists, he did what to stop them, exactly?

All he did was refuse a check from the Saudis when he pretty much could count on billions in aid coming in, so a measly ten million was no big thing.

Nope, with his historical attitudes toward gunowners, WE are the "terrorists" Rudy would be tough on, not some foreigner with a vial of anthrax or a car bomb.

Y'all keep him. He never ran for mayor in America, only New York City.

59 posted on 05/02/2007 7:07:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Jake The Goose

Grits made it into the American diet when they were introduced to the first European settlers by the Indians up in New England.


60 posted on 05/02/2007 7:08:04 AM PDT by blam
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