I posted this on another thread, so it may have some reference to some other items, but for the most part, it also would fit in here (i.e., the “Religion of Peace” and in refernce to the above article).
From — http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1826249/posts?page=78#78
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You said — “You’re probably correct, I only caught a few minutes of a ‘replay’ show that had aired earlier in the week. Very worthy of a listening to by all.(wish I’d heard the whole show)”
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Here is Walid Shoebat’s website —
http://www.shoebat.com/
Wikipedia Article —
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat
Some YouTube videos —
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=walid+shoebat&search=Search
Jan Markell (radio host) for KKMS (Minneapolis), Radio Archives —
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/radio/mp3/
[use search function and plug in “Shoebat”]
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On that Wikipedia article, I was reading one part of it, which said —
Sheila Musaji said of Shoebat that “This is an extremist Christian terrorist. This is not a former terrorist. This is a man who used to hate Jews and now hates Muslims, who used to commit violence against Jews and now justifies violence against Muslims.”
Now, that’s absolutely ridiculous, since He’s a Christian. He does not espouse violence towards Muslims. What he does is point out the violence that they have towards the West, Christians and Jews. However, to that mindset (i.e., the Muslims) if you point out *their hate* — then you are encouraging hate (obviously because you’re pointing out their hate). And if you point out *their violence* — then you are encouraging violence (again, obviously because you’re pointing out their violence). That’s basically the “rationale” for the Muslims to say that he espouses hate and violence — soley on the basis of him pointing out where it’s really coming from.
Secondly — the Wikipedia article says — “He [Will Youmans; see below...] also argues that Shoebat’s religious convictions, including the belief that Jews will be forced to “accept Christ or perish in hell” when the Rapture comes, are intrinsically anti-Semitic.”
Now, that’s another ridiculous statement. It’s, first of all, true that he is a Christian. And secondly, it’s *very well known* that Christians teach that Christianity is *totally exclusive* to any other religion in the world and that the *only way* to God the Father (as Jesus said, Himself) is through Jesus. It is emphasized, many times in the Bible, that there is no other way. And then, thirdly, it’s also a well-known Christian doctrine that any who refuse to accept Christ as Savior will perish in Hell. Therefore, these *three givens* from Christianity apply “across the board” — to any race, any nationality, any group, or any-anything.
So, you take those three fundamentals of the Christian doctrine and faith and then you put “Jews” in there (without mentioning all the other people in the world that it applies to) — and then you say, “See there, he’s anti-semitic!” That’s an absolutely twisted argument to try to gain some sympathy, or “hearing” on the basis of throwing out the phrase “anti-semitic”.
And then, another statement from Will Youmans — “Furthermore, Youmans contends that Shoebat’s beliefs are incompatible with efforts towards peace, because of the premillennial, dispensational doctrine that the Second Coming of Christ will be hastened by conflict in the Middle East.”
Now, while many may not know anything about premillennial or dispensational doctrine (in Christianity), at least I do. You’ll notice that I’ve got it mentioned on my FReeper home page. I’ve had it there for a long time. And this is another type of slander or slur against some Christians — the *idea* that the Second Coming of Christ will be *hastened* by conflict in the Middle East.
It’s like someone is saying, “Well, they think that the Second Coming will arrive faster if there is conflict, so these people are going to work for as much conflict as they can create over there, hence, all their ‘hate speech’ and ‘violence’ against the Muslims.”
That’s such a ridiculous idea that any of these Christians would “work for” or “support” violence over there, for the sake of speeding up the Second Coming. These Christians would support Israel defending itself, and of course, these very same Muslims complaining about this “supposed hate and violence” of the Christians, would prefer that Israel “not defend itself” — so they would have an easier time of wiping them out. And, by *their logic* — Israel defending itself is “perpetrating violence” upon the Muslims. They really do have twisted logic when you listen to them.
I will say that those Christians who do adhere to the premillennial and dispensational views, definitely see that the Bible talks about the coming battle of Armageddon and the 7-years of Tribulation, in which the entire world and the various armies of the nations (of the world) are brought to a battlefield in the Middle East. That they do see as coming. However, they are not encouraging it or supporting it. It’s simply something that is coming *on its own*.
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See below for a brief bio of Will Youmans —
Will Youmans (born in Detroit, MI in 1978) is a Palestinian-American writer, activist and hip-hop artist.
Youmans is an outspoken advocate for the cause of Palestinian human rights and a critic of American foreign policy in the Middle East. He co-hosts and co-produces a show, “What’s Happening?,” on the American channel of the international satellite TV station Arab Radio and Television (ART). He has written extensively in various media outlets, including the San Francisco Chronicle, Michigan Daily, Daily Californian, Counterpunch. He writes a weekly column with the Arab-American News.
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Another spokesperson about the aims and hate and violence of Muslims is Brigitte Gabriel from Lebanon. She had to live through the Islamic violence perpetrated on her and her family while she was growing up in her teen years. She now lives in the U.S. have a husband and family and goes on speaking tours around the country letting people know what the *aims* of Muslims are (— basically out for our destruction... —).
Her website —
http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/
And, if you get a chance to see this video, you should — “Obsession.” An abridged 12-minute version is here (you can purchase the full version if you want) —
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/trailer-12min.php
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And then, for a listing of all the Islamic terrorists attacks, see the following. It’s over 1,000 pages, organized by dates (the years). You can view smaller segments that way.
http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Terrorism_Timeline.Islam
Go to the homepage of this site and get a lot of other information. This guy actually met with Al Qaida (a very dangerious thing to do) and wrote of the experience and gives his knowledge of the problem.
His book is called “Tea with Terrorists” (interesting...)
http://teawithterrorists.com/
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For a lot of videos from Islamic countries and the hate they constantly preach to all their people, including kids from kindergarten, up... see...
Their main website is —
http://www.memri.org/
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Another person that speaks out (her father was a terrorist...) is Nonie Darwish. You’ll find her interviewed several times on Jan Markell’s program (up above).
http://www.arabsforisrael.com/
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Well, that’s a lot of information there, for anyone. Look at it all and learn an awfully lot...
Regards,
Star Traveler
Thanks for all the info..~Pandora~