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Confiscation of Registered Guns Begins in Illinois
Illinois State Rifle Association ^

Posted on 04/27/2007 7:25:59 AM PDT by bad company

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To: LIConFem
Let’s hope it never comes to that ....

It will probably sooner than anyone thinks. And it will not matter which political party is in control or in office. Our government does not want the public armed. To build an Empire you need to break down the common people so they can only rely on the controlling force. Our government is in the Empire building business and does not care about the common people anymore.

21 posted on 04/27/2007 7:45:34 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: null and void; TigersEye
Its alarming .... I could see them going after illegal guns but not just because someone forgot to update their info. They ought to be spending more time fighting crime IMO.
22 posted on 04/27/2007 7:45:47 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: absolootezer0
In New Orleans, not a single officer was shot while illegally confiscating legally owned firearms. Some would say that gun owners should have resisted with force, but I would say it shows that citizens showed a higher form of civility and citizenship. The RKBA was strengthened by the way NO gun owners acted, for NO is now used as an example of exactly why the RKBA exists and why it must be protected. Had some officers or citizens died in a dispute over the confiscation, the incident would have just been useful to the gun-grabbers as fodder to prove how dangerous guns and gun owners are.

The revenge for NO confiscations will be served in later lawsuits. Let us hope that some productive revenge can be served in Chicago.

As we transition from a society with rural roots to one where most youth have no connection with hunting or the sporting use of firearms, the issue of concealed carry becomes highly beneficial to the Second Amendment.

I know that in Missouri, once the number of concealed carry permitees exceeded 10,000, it became a large enough block of voters that it has not escaped the attention of politicians. So, CCW itself can become a political factor. Of course, Illinois has this hurdle to overcome, and it seems that there is a police-state mentality in some of its law enforcement community. That cancer will take years to flush out, assuming someone who recogizes it is able to be elected to an office where they can do something about it.

Barring that, people who love liberty are just going to have to find it elsewhere.

23 posted on 04/27/2007 7:45:48 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Mariner
I hear you and the SS and Gestapo had the exact same sentiments too.

3,000 people died on 9/11 and not one handgun or rifle was used. Sometimes peoples' mentalities never rise above the second floor.

24 posted on 04/27/2007 7:46:05 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: sbMKE

How about get the illegals loaded (booze), then go after them.


25 posted on 04/27/2007 7:48:48 AM PDT by wastedyears (To a liberal, "feeling safe" is far more important than "being safe" Credit to TruthShallSetYouFree)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
If he gets shot violating the Constitution then I have no sympathy for him.

I 100% Agree.

26 posted on 04/27/2007 7:48:55 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: JZelle

And that my folks is the prime basis for ‘The New World Order’. If a select few have control over the people as a whole, by whatever means, then the income of the select few is steady and even more skimming can occur. A feudal mentality that still exists these days......Greed ingrained in the hearts of so many.


27 posted on 04/27/2007 7:49:46 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: All

Got to ask:

Is it possible that all this CCW momentum is actually just a ‘covert’ way for government to compile a very accurate list of gun owners?

Is sick, but hey, governments have been known to turn on people... wait, we are witnessing that now, aren’t we?


28 posted on 04/27/2007 7:50:01 AM PDT by elpinta (Tagline temporarily out of service)
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To: bad company

Laying out the red carpet for the Clinton Crime Syndicate.
They want to end the war, and bring the troops home from Iraq to round up so-called VRWC groups after the “return of the queen” who would object to her plans and policies.


29 posted on 04/27/2007 7:50:01 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (If the Moon didn't exist, people would have traveled to Mars by now.)
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To: bad company

“Thanks to a ruling by a liberal federal judge, the CAGE unit now has the name of every single person in the United States who, since 1992, lawfully purchased more than one handgun in the period of a week. The CAGE unit also has all the makes, models and serial numbers of those guns.”

Who on earth is maintaining such lists; this is blatantly unconstitutional.


30 posted on 04/27/2007 7:50:27 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: RSmithOpt
MY QUESTION IS WHY IN God's NAME DID HE EVER LET THE TROOPER IN HIS HOUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE. UNLESS HE HAD A WARRENT THERE IS NO WAY HE WOULD HAVE COME IN MY HOUSE. IN ADDITION, WHEN ASKED IF THE MAN OWNED A GUN MY ANSWER WOULD BE THAT THE TROOPER DIDN’T HAVE A NEED TO KNOW. AMEN.
31 posted on 04/27/2007 7:51:10 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Mariner
Every cop I ever met would take guns, especially HANDGUNS, out of the hands of the average citizen.

I doubt you actually know any LEOs.

32 posted on 04/27/2007 7:53:13 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est.)
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To: bad company
Come and take my guns.
They were bought legally and they will NOT be surrendered without a fight.
33 posted on 04/27/2007 7:55:04 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: elpinta

Bingo!


34 posted on 04/27/2007 7:55:47 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Doctor Raoul

But first you must have 3 different sized rods and proper training to correctly beat your wife so no marks are evident while she’s in public wearing her hijab.


35 posted on 04/27/2007 7:57:43 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: AmericanGunner

In Pennsylvania, it’s HB 760. We called our state senator and our state representative today to determine their position (opposed) and register our support of that position.

Hatched by the loonies in Philadelphia, this would require annual photograph and fingerprinting along with a $10 permit for each firearm. Oh, and if the powers that be didn’t grant you your annual permit, you would be required to surrender your weapons.

Fat chance. The PA constitution actually includes the line “shall not be questioned” when addressing the rights of firearm ownership. Clearly, somebody hasn’t done their homework.


36 posted on 04/27/2007 7:57:58 AM PDT by trimom
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To: absolootezer0
anyone starting a pool on how long before an officer gets shot for doing his duty?

Not that long ... but then again most people that love freedom left Chicago a long time ago.

37 posted on 04/27/2007 7:58:42 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: elpinta
Is it possible that all this CCW momentum is actually just a ‘covert’ way for government to compile a very accurate list of gun owners?

That's why I have never applied. Took the class and I carry anyway.

39 posted on 04/27/2007 8:02:35 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: bad company
POST-DISPATCH SPRINGFIELD BUREAU

Thursday, Apr. 26 2007

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — A downstate resident who complained to his local lawmaker about his Ameren electric bill last week was so upset over the issue that police ended up at his door, confiscated guns from him and are continuing to investigate, several sources confirmed Wednesday.

However, state Sen. Gary Forby, D-Benton, whose office fielded the angry call, said initial media reports that there was a death threat against himself and Senate President Emil Jones aren't accurate.

"There was never, ever a death threat. We just had a concerned person … who was upset about his Ameren bill,'' Forby said Wednesday.

He said the man, a Benton resident, did talk about Jones, and said things that raised concerns he might injure himself. "We thought there could be an issue with his safety … so we asked the state police to look into it,'' Forby said.

The incident, which began Friday and continued over the weekend, is the latest fallout from the electricity rate controversy that has raged in the Legislature this year.

That debate continues today, when a House committee is expected to take up a bill that would roll back and freeze rates for Ameren customers. Many believe that measure is ultimately doomed because of opposition by Jones, the Senate leader.

Forby and Jones, a Chicago Democrat, have been at the center of the rate controversy in recent weeks. Forby sponsored the Ameren rate-freeze bill that's now in the House. Jones, a rate-freeze opponent, sparked outrage Friday by using an obscure parliamentary maneuver to prevent ComEd from being included in that bill, an omission that could scuttle the whole rate-freeze proposal.

As that issue was playing out in Springfield on Friday, Forby said, a man called his district office in Benton and talked to a staff member there about the electric rate issue. Based on the tenor of that conversation, Forby said, his office alerted police. Police went to the man's house and confiscated several guns, according to local media and other sources.

An Illinois State Police spokesman confirmed Wednesday that there is an investigation but declined to provide further information. No charges had been filed in the case as of Wednesday afternoon.

A spokeswoman for Jones declined to comment.

40 posted on 04/27/2007 8:04:54 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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