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Confiscation of Registered Guns Begins in Illinois
Illinois State Rifle Association ^

Posted on 04/27/2007 7:25:59 AM PDT by bad company

The Chicago Police Department and the Illinois State Police have teamed up to make good on Mayor Daley's pledge that, if it were up to him, nobody would have a gun. Daley and his elite "CAGE" unit are apparently taking advantage of gun privacy loopholes to pinpoint certain individuals for inclusion in the confiscation program.

The ISRA is following up on leads in one case that has disturbing implications. An elderly first-generation Chicago resident was recently paid a visit by an Illinois State Police trooper. After asking to come inside the man's home, the trooper asked if the man owned a gun - to which he replied yes. The trooper then directed the individual to surrender the firearm. The man complied with the officer's demand and the trooper left with the gun. And the story gets better...

The gun in question was purchased legally by the man in the 1970s shortly after he became a U.S. citizen. When Chicago's infamous gun registration scheme went into effect in the early 1980s, the man registered the firearm as per the requirement. However, over the years, the fellow apparently forgot to re-register the firearm, and forgot to renew his Illinois FOID Card.

So...what does this all mean?

In the last edition of The Illinois Shooter, we reported on the activities of a shady taskforce known as the Chicago Anti Gun Enforcement (CAGE) unit. This elite squad, operated jointly by the Illinois State Police, the Chicago Police Department, and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, supposedly exists to identify illegal gunrunners. However, information gained by the ISRA makes it clear that the CAGE unit is targeting law-abiding citizens, not criminal gunrunners.

Thanks to a ruling by a liberal federal judge, the CAGE unit now has the name of every single person in the United States who, since 1992, lawfully purchased more than one handgun in the period of a week. The CAGE unit also has all the makes, models and serial numbers of those guns. In essence, the Chicago Police Department is now registering guns and gun owners nationwide.

The ISRA has also learned that the CAGE unit has compiled a list of families where more than one person in that family holds a FOID card. Acting on that information, the CAGE unit is now contacting gun shops where those families have shopped, and is illegally registering all guns purchased by those families.

Now, it appears that the CAGE unit is scrubbing Chicago's gun registration list against the list of FOID card holders. Indications are that folks who have let their registrations and FOIDs lapse will have their guns confiscated. We have to wonder how long it will be until state troopers show up at the doors to confiscate the guns of non-Chicago residents who have let their FOIDs expire.

More later as this story develops.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; cage; chicago; communism; gungrabbers; molonlabe; secondamendment; selfdefense; socialism
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To: Wallace T.
I hate Illinois Nazis.


141 posted on 04/28/2007 9:09:48 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: TigersEye
"I sold it about five years ago." "It was a private transaction." "I didn't give or get a receipt."

You would then be in violation of IL State Laws which state that a written receipt must be issued for every sale of a firearm and said receipt must be retained by both the buyer and the seller for a period of seven years.

Said receipt must also include the serial number of the firearm in question.

Therefore the correct response to an armed agent of the State showing up at your front door is "Do you have a warrant?"

L

142 posted on 04/28/2007 9:10:00 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: bad company

What is a FOID card?


143 posted on 04/28/2007 9:13:04 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: Beelzebubba

“Hillary/Rudy can just send the patriotic troops overseas, and have the unionized ATF/SWAT goons do the dirty work, helped by every local police and Sheriff’s department with all their federally-funded ninja gear. And 99% will do it to keep all the union benefits, plus the adrenaline bonus”

Good point. It is this exact scenario that needs to be feared.

Has everyone forgotten Waco?


144 posted on 04/28/2007 9:23:20 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTOL=SLAVERY)
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To: bad company
This story is sort of old-hat fellas:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b548a4a2136.htm
145 posted on 04/28/2007 9:29:03 AM PDT by bamahead (I think I am better than the people who are trying to reform me -- E.W. Howe)
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To: JackRyanCIA
A parallel time line when compared with Nazi Germany.

To control a populace, you must first disarm said populace.

146 posted on 04/28/2007 9:30:36 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jack Hammer
“Thanks to a ruling by a liberal federal judge, the CAGE unit now has the name of every single person in the United States who, since 1992, lawfully purchased more than one handgun in the period of a week. The CAGE unit also has all the makes, models and serial numbers of those guns.”

Who on earth is maintaining such lists; this is blatantly unconstitutional.

Well, from some Googling based on some old memories about such a list, it turns out that in one of the nuisance lawsuits by left-wing municipalities, the City of Chicago sued the BATF to release its "multiple sales record" database. (The NRA filed an excellent amicus briefing opposing this release.) The court ruled in Chicago's favor, and then it appears that the city decided to abuse that release by giving the list to this CAGE unit to be misused to harass gunowners.

147 posted on 04/28/2007 9:35:33 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: M203M4

SUPER POST!!!!!!!!


148 posted on 04/28/2007 9:37:08 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTOL=SLAVERY)
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To: Lurker

When I was in Illinois in 2001 I could show my out-of-state DL and buy ammo.


149 posted on 04/28/2007 9:38:10 AM PDT by no-s
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To: beckysueb

Firearms Owner IDentification card.


150 posted on 04/28/2007 9:49:26 AM PDT by bad company (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous)
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To: USMCWife6869

nobody would have a gun...except the criminal who can always obtain one in the black market.


151 posted on 04/28/2007 9:53:27 AM PDT by fabian
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To: TigersEye

No actually in time they will arrest and or simply murder anyone for that answer..

W


152 posted on 04/28/2007 10:07:58 AM PDT by WLR
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To: bad company
Trooper: "do you have a firearm?"
Me: "do you have a warrant to look and see? if not, guess. Please leave my home, please leave now, and do not come back without a warrant, as you will not be allowed in."
153 posted on 04/28/2007 10:33:36 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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To: SauronOfMordor

When a cop visits you, it is NEVER because he wants to talk about football. Before inviting him into your home, always ask what it is about, and ask if there is any reason you cannot discuss it outside. If he says he HAS to come inside, that is a good sign it is serious and you already need a lawyer. If a cop stops and helps you on the street, he is your friend. When he comes to your home, he usually ain’t your friend, and you should not start out thinking he is.


154 posted on 04/28/2007 10:39:00 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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To: bad company
I'd shoot Dick Daley's gun grabbing cops BEFORE surrendering my firearm. The only way they'd pry it from me is from my "cold, dead hands."

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

155 posted on 04/28/2007 10:41:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: THEUPMAN
Nope. The cop's right to use force ends when he's following an illegal order. And if he tries to forcibly deprive me of my rights, I will resist with all the means at my disposal.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

156 posted on 04/28/2007 10:45:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mariner

I have several LEO’s in my family and they would say you are full of crap!


157 posted on 04/28/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by Howie
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To: Lurker
You would then be in violation of IL State Laws...

Thankfully, and by no accident, I am not subject to IL laws.

158 posted on 04/28/2007 1:06:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: WLR

Assuming I sit around passively as they go house to house.


159 posted on 04/28/2007 1:07:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Hugin

I have four LEO relatives and only one is against private firearms ownership,and he is a retired Illinois State police captain.Of the other twenty or more LEO’s that I know none of them think honist citizens should be denied 2A rights.At the police range of which I am a member(not a cop)they thin kmore people should practice as much as I do especially some of their fellow officers.


160 posted on 04/28/2007 1:43:47 PM PDT by Papabear47
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