Posted on 04/26/2007 11:57:24 AM PDT by Uncledave
The Virginia Tech massacre has spawned countless questions: Everything from why would student Cho Seung-hui gun down 32 fellow human beings, to why was campus security not able to prevent him from committing the deadliest mass-shooting in U.S. history.
Three of the questions all related posed to me have been: Why didnt some of the students rush Cho? Why didnt someone tackle and disarm him? Where were the likes of those brave souls of United Flight 93 who made the decision to Lets Roll on September 11, 2001?
First, to the third question: The brave souls were there at Virginia Tech, and they rose to the occasion on April 16, 2007. But like those of Flight 93, bravery wasnt enough.
Now to the first two questions: Its easy to Monday-morning quarterback about what any one of us would have done in similar circumstances. It amazes me the number of people who have told me, they would have rushed Cho. And they would not have just sat there and let him do what he did.
But make no mistake, no one really knows what they will do under fire, until they are in fact under fire. And like all combat actions, there are tactical variables at play that often carry more weight than any combination of courage, quickness, and reason ever will. Not that C,Q, and R dont matter: They do, and lives are nearly always saved because of them. But they are usually not enough to save everyone in the face of a determined killer or killers.
Lets consider a few of those tactical variables in the case of the Virginia Tech massacre.
Aside from being armed with two (easily reloadable) semi-automatic pistols with plenty of ammunition, the shooter, Cho, had countless advantages as he entered each classroom:
1) Cho possessed the elements of both surprise and shock: The latter includes terror, which can in many instances physically, mentally, and emotionally paralyze the victims.
2) Cho was in close-enough quarters with few exits that his victims would have found it extremely difficult to escape: In fact, he was in many cases positioned in front of the only door in a given classroom.
3) In almost every classroom, Chos field of fire would have been between 45 and 90-degree angles, affording him complete coverage of every space in the room at any one moment.
4) Chos victims would have had no cover (physical protection from Chos bullets) and virtually no concealment at any time during the attack.
5) The small, terrible space between the doorway - which Cho would have entered with guns blazing and the groupings of desks where the victims would have been sitting, would have been the deadliest space in the room. For a student to rush Cho, the student would have had to immediately overcome the shock of the attack, unhesitatingly bolt from his or her desk, and charge exposed and unarmed directly across the deadliest space in the room to the source of the killings. This would have been a wholly unnatural act for anyone (Ill explain this in a moment), yet we may never know if one or two victims actually did do this.
6) The charging, unarmed student would have had no way of knowing whether or not there were more unseen gunmen following behind the visible shooter, Cho.
7) Cho was a fanatic, and prepared to die in his own attack.
8) Most of the victims were young, and probably none of them had any combat training, much less experience under fire: The exception being Dr. Liviu Librescu, the 76-year-old professor and Holocaust survivor who sacrificed himself for his students.
Twenty-five years ago as a Marine infantryman, I remember my squad constantly running immediate action drills: the actions taken in response to an ambush while on patrol.
We were always taught to counterattack directly in the face of the ambush, quickly closing the gap between us and the enemy, and in doing so, attempt to gain fire superiority by shooting back.
We practiced the immediate action drills over-and-over for two reasons. First, if in the event of an actual ambush we were to have sought cover or attempted to run (the natural human reaction), we would have been shot to pieces and the squad probably wiped out. Second, if we didnt practice the immediate action drills until they became instinctive responses to an ambush, we just like any other human beings would instinctively run, seek cover, or hit the deck. And we were U.S. Marines, so there was never a dearth of courage or aggressiveness.
Which brings me back to the students and faculty at Virginia Tech who fell victim to Cho.
They died not because they were too afraid to act. In fact, the heroics of many of them already have been chronicled. More stories of heroism in the face of unequivocal horror will surely surface in the coming weeks and months. And most likely some of the stories of the greatest courage died with the victims before they could be told.
Its amazing what good men and women are capable of doing in the most desperate moments of life and death. Its even more amazing how people measure up to a task, even when they are not prepared to do so.
But the odds were against the victims at Virginia Tech. Under the circumstances, they did all they could to survive and help their fellow students and professors. But it wasnt enough; it never will be against a determined killer like Cho.
And, as retired Navy SEAL and Medal of Honor recipient Mike Thornton told me in an interview for National Review Onlines The Tank, Thank God, he [Cho] didnt have guns staged all over the place. The losses would have been even higher.
W. Thomas Smith Jr. is a former U.S. Marine infantry leader, parachutist, and shipboard counterterrorism instructor and co-author of The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pirates.
It must be recoiless. :)
I know of three brave teachers. One of them left the safety of the third floor to try and help.
One of the professors killed was a vet. He came downstairs to confront the killer and was killed.
Let me know how you handle it the next time someone bursts in on you unawares with guns blazing.
Cool.
87 caliber.
Interesting. I didn’t remember that Kevin was a veteran
He is simply pointing out that one has to be trained to respond to an attack by charging the killer.
Geesh..! He didn't have AUTOMATIC weapons..!!
When will CHO be issued (posthumously) a summons for bringing a gun into a “GUN FREE” ZONE?
My son was an Army Lt in Iraq, and was in combat. The training clicks in and saves lives. You know the old fight or flight thing. A few guys with spears can take down a lion, but they weren’t born with that ability.
Only creepy to non-military, draft-dodging folks..
Those of us that did serve our country in the armed forces are well familiar with these terms.
I take it that this sort of knowledge is beneath the likes of you?
I corrected my error on post 19
If you’re mad enough a .22 will do.
When I was a kid, my neighbor killed her husband with a .22. One shot.
I was going to say something about your remark but I see you are from Texas so I will let it slide.
http://www.catholicvirginian.org/archive/2007/2007vol82iss13/pages/2007vol82iss13.html
Article where it is mentioned
Unless you’re the first to hit with tremendous bad luck, I’m sure I could’ve drawn and fired and hit him. If he was coming into a semi-barracaded room, I know I’d be able to line up and take him down with 2-3 shots of .357 Sig as he came in.
Problem is, nobody in those classrooms had a chance, they were unarmed. Even if it was legal to carry, I bet nobody would anyway.
9/11 should’ve taught us, but it didn’t.
What amazes me most, which the utter lack of action on this, is why we haven’t had 10 copycats and 100 other jihadists raining death in campuses across the country.
They are completely, utterly, open seasons.
Right now, if anyone wanted to repeat Cho’s action, they could, in thousands of campuses across the country, and do the same or worse.
I defy anybody to have the presence of mind under withering fire to do anything but run, unless they have military or police training.
BUMP
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