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Citadel military school to put locks on cadets' rooms
CNN.com ^ | April 23, 2007 | AP

Posted on 04/23/2007 1:45:38 PM PDT by Jake The Goose

CHARLESTON, South Carolina (AP) -- The Citadel will break with tradition and install locks on all cadet rooms amid concerns about safety in the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings.

Male cadets at the state military college have no locks on their barracks doors. Female cadets can lock their doors from the inside. The tradition had evolved in keeping with the spareness of military life and with the school's honor code, which mandates that cadets do not steal.

Now, all cadets will get keys to lock their doors from the outside by next semester. Installing the locks will cost about $125,000.

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To: Admin Moderator
>1). This isn’t Breaking News. 2). Use the published headline. Not your manufactured one. Thanks, AM

Oh, great! Now The Goose
is gonna flip and attack
the forum, honking . . .

21 posted on 04/23/2007 2:09:08 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Vicomte13

Wow - you are one smart Freeper.

I may just print your post.

Did you live it?


22 posted on 04/23/2007 2:09:26 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
As the Ashley and Cooper rivers come together to form the Atlantic Ocean, the Citadel remains THE MILITARY COLLEGE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
23 posted on 04/23/2007 2:12:10 PM PDT by jamaksin
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To: jamaksin

Oh man - I can’t believe I am saying this.

You made my eyes tear up.

And I hated every day at that place.

Just goes to show you - what doesn’t kill you - makes you stronger.

Thanks for the post - it has made today a better day.


24 posted on 04/23/2007 2:14:03 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

Us ROTC pukes were too busy drinking beer and banging sorority girls to bother with this foolishness. I still managed to get a butterbar on graduation and make O-5&6 below the zone.


25 posted on 04/23/2007 2:15:42 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Free Stan Shunpike!)
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To: Jake The Goose

I just didn’t get caught. Of course what was great about graduating from North Georgia in 66 is that we were all were guaranteed jobs and travel to a sunny climate (except during monsoon season) as soon as we graduated.


26 posted on 04/23/2007 2:16:37 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: CholeraJoe

Sounds like you did the right way.

A lot of our national heroes followed the path of ROTC.

I salute you sir - and your keg.


27 posted on 04/23/2007 2:16:50 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

There would be at least one less fine officer in the world had we all been armed.

And I’d either be in Leavenworth or in Hell.

Everybody’s got a bayonet, of course, but you think twice about a bayonet. Can the other guy take you? What if you don’t get surprise?

But with a gun, just sitting there - you know the nice feeling of security you have knowing you’ve got a gun within reach - in a plebe’s drawer you could hear the tick, tick, tick.

People need guns to defend themselves. For military academies to work, the cadets must not be able to defend themselves in any way. They just have to submit. And submission is damned hard for Americans. If you’re going to command, you’ve got to learn how to obey first. Now, the military does a fine job training enlisted to do that without blood on the deckplates, but officer training in the Academies is done by other students, often smart, often assholes and imbeciles when it comes to dealing with other people. That’s what they’re there to LEARN, after all, and one way you learn to lead is by screwing up royally at the academies, treating people like shit, and repenting of your ways with time and experience. But give everybody a handgun? Well, then every suicide would be effective. And most of them would be murder-suicides.

Once you’re an officer, THEN you carry the gun. While you’re being made into one, you need to not have any mental hook as to how you can “turn the tables” on your tormentors.
Because a certain number will.


28 posted on 04/23/2007 2:17:41 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: U S Army EOD

It’s day like this when I wish Free Republic took place in a bar.


29 posted on 04/23/2007 2:17:59 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: CholeraJoe

I thought you were a civilian, Air Force or something simular.


30 posted on 04/23/2007 2:19:37 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Jake The Goose

This part of Free Republic is always in a bar.


31 posted on 04/23/2007 2:20:49 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Vicomte13

Wow - Wow

Now I know why I joined Free Republic.

It’s to associate with men like yourself.

It is my honor sir.

Thank you for taking the time to post to this thread.

Damn - I love this stuff.


32 posted on 04/23/2007 2:21:17 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: river rat

It’s not about security, per se. It’s partially about trust—the fact that Citadel cadets do not steal, and can implictly be trusted 100% around each other and their possessions—and the fact that, like Jake said, plebes have no expectation of privacy.

BTW, I saw the last line of your post, and here’s some irony for ya. My next-cube-neighbor’s youngest son went to The Citadel. He screwed up (culminating in getting busted with a fake ID at a bar in Charleston) and got expelled. He decided to de-screw his life, so to the utter shock and consternation of his dad, he joined the Marine Reserves. Twelve weeks on Parris Island got his head right.

This congenital cock-up and party boy ended up in Iraq twice in 2004-05 as part of a logistical outfit based in Charleston. He made multiple convoy runs through the Sunni Triangle, under fire (and returning it)—supposedly, according to his dad, his CO had to order him NOT to volunteer to ride shotgun on convoys any more because he was needed back at base in Kuwait. He was even thinking about possibly joining the active Corps if he could.

}:-)4


33 posted on 04/23/2007 2:22:49 PM PDT by Moose4 (Yoiks, and away!)
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To: Jake The Goose

My brother was class of 84.


34 posted on 04/23/2007 2:23:53 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: kalee

What company was he in - do you know?


35 posted on 04/23/2007 2:24:45 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

More than likely, poor company if he was at the Citadel.

North Georgia College-66.


36 posted on 04/23/2007 2:26:24 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: U S Army EOD

Stop it you basta_d - you are killing me.

Great line - great line.

Oh man - you are a funny SOB


37 posted on 04/23/2007 2:28:08 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

He was in N.


38 posted on 04/23/2007 2:33:01 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: kalee

N = November

Way down at the end of the campus.

Thanks - I was in ‘G’ - Golf, Garbage,

Not much more to add


39 posted on 04/23/2007 2:37:24 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
Hey Jake...
My sons a Senior Private at ElCid.. he too is king of the quad..
Sometimes I think he goes out of his way to get 40 tours..
But he one hell of a man ( notice I didn’t say kid, I dropped a KID off 4 years ago)....
I had a house full of cadets on holidays since ( I call them the “Locusts” cause when they leave all eatables are gone..
But a finer bunch of fellows I have ever met...
Two have guarantees of slots at Pensacola (1 Marine,1 Squid)
another is going to the Basic School after Graduation, Two are on the Honor Court,1 in the USN Surface Fleet, and My guy is going in as a Marine Butter Bar
The only thing that comes close to being a “Ring Knocker” is being a Citadel DAD!!!
40 posted on 04/23/2007 2:38:32 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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