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Giuliani Criticizes a U.S. Crackdown on Illegal Aliens
NYTimes Archives ^ | 08/23/1995 | David Firestone

Posted on 04/21/2007 7:51:46 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Immigration restrictions gathering steam in the Republican-led Congress would have "catastrophic social effects" in New York City and other large cities, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said yesterday. He charged that the proposals violated basic decency and could throw as many as 60,000 immigrant children out of the city's schools and onto the streets.

Once again taking sharp exception with the dominant conservative wing of his own party, Mr. Giuliani said in an interview that the proposed crackdown on illegal immigrants was deliberately intended to play to the public's worst fears of foreigners, and did not take into consideration the positive effects of immigrants on cities like New York.

"It's based on an irrational fear of something different, something strange, that somehow they're going to take something away from us," he said. "A lot of it is just undifferentiated fear of foreigners, of people who appear to have different values or different ways of doing things."

In June, the Congressional Task Force on Immigration Reform, a Republican-dominated panel appointed by Speaker Newt Gingrich, issued a report containing dozens of recommendations on restricting illegal immigration.

The proposals, now being written into bills that are at various stages of consideration in House committees, would require public hospitals to report illegal aliens who seek medical treatment and would require public schools to turn away students who are in this country illegally. The report, which Mr. Gingrich endorsed, is similar to Proposition 187, a measure approved by California voters last November that would cut off most public benefits to illegal aliens.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; illegalimmigration; rudy; stoprudy2008
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From 1995.

Just one more article on Rudy's tough stance on illegal immigration...or lack of it, I should say.

1 posted on 04/21/2007 7:51:50 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Spiff; NapkinUser; areafiftyone; oceanview; narses; Liz; pissant; dirtboy; HiJinx; veronica; ...

Ping of interest (Rudy, immigration, what have you).


2 posted on 04/21/2007 7:53:00 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Well, that's it for Rudy. Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
3 posted on 04/21/2007 7:55:58 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("One if by land, two if by sea, three if by legislation")
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To: NonValueAdded

Cultural Marxism leads ultimately to economic Marxism...


4 posted on 04/21/2007 7:57:27 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

> He charged that the proposals violated basic decency and could throw as many as 60,000 immigrant children out of the city’s schools and onto the streets.<

Well, Rudy would have only himself to blame!


5 posted on 04/21/2007 8:01:52 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

He’s done - no need to stick in a fork.


6 posted on 04/21/2007 8:04:45 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (ought)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
He charged that the proposals violated basic decency and could throw as many as 60,000 immigrant children out of the city's schools and onto the streets.

See! Rudy has a deep deep heartfelt desire for "the children". Well, except for his own........

7 posted on 04/21/2007 8:04:57 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I believe that's my stapler....)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I would not vote for this clown even if he could show his ability to walk on water.

With the current slate of Republican candidates, I may not vote this go-around.

Let Hitlary win … perhaps the country deserves her!
8 posted on 04/21/2007 8:06:56 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Maybe Hillary will be better.


9 posted on 04/21/2007 8:07:01 PM PDT by A. Pole (Joanne Senier-LaBarre: "We Wish You a Swinging Holiday!")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
"It's based on an irrational fear of something different, something strange"

Actually, it's a rational concern about tens of millions of new citizen-voters tipping the electoral scales decidedly in the Democrats' favor and moving the nation's political center considerably to the left. And if we give illegals amnesty, you can bank on that happening.

10 posted on 04/21/2007 8:08:11 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Another good reason not to vote for Rudy.


11 posted on 04/21/2007 8:08:24 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A man who is a moral leper in the bedroom cannot be trusted in anything.


12 posted on 04/21/2007 8:08:38 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: A. Pole
"Maybe Hillary will be better"

Of course she wouldn't be. But thankfully the contest isn't just between those two.

13 posted on 04/21/2007 8:10:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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It's based on an irrational fear of something different, something strange, that somehow they're going to take something away from us,"

It's not irrational. They are already taking OUR money, OUR jobs, our classroom space, OUR grants and loans, and OUR gov't assistance.

A lot of it is just undifferentiated fear of foreigners, of people who appear to have different values or different ways of doing things."

Hopefully those different values would be breaking the law and allegiance to our country.

14 posted on 04/21/2007 8:11:55 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: isthisnickcool

“He charged that the proposals violated basic decency and could throw as many as 60,000 immigrant children out of the city’s schools and onto the streets.”

How about throwing them out of the city’s schools and back to their own countries?


15 posted on 04/21/2007 8:12:35 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Don’t you have the tense wrong.

This article is from 1995. Pre-911.


16 posted on 04/21/2007 8:12:42 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: A. Pole; indylindy

Maybe it would be best if you stop trying to use that canard.

Allowing a liberal to become the Republican nominee on the backs of conservatives willing to sacrifice principles for victory at any price would marginalize conservatism in the Republican Party more than a Hillary presidency would. We would effectively kill ourselves as a philosophy.

If we vote for Giuliani, even though he willingly stands against a great number of conservative positions, that would be the same as telling people that we aren’t serious about our ideals. Who would take the conservative movement seriously anymore?

And, it would tell the Republican Party that they won’t need conservatives anymore.

That would cause far more long-term damage than the short-term damage by a Hillary presidency (and IMHO, it’s not guaranteed she’ll be the Democrat nominee anyway). If we could survive Carter and Bubba, we can survive Hillary.


17 posted on 04/21/2007 8:13:20 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: dsc

Pro gun control and pro abortion stance does it for me … not getting my vote.


18 posted on 04/21/2007 8:13:30 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Cincinna
His message certainly hasn't changed at all.

"Like Mr. Bush, Mr. Giuliani emphasizes the need for tough border controls."

That one sentence alone is snicker-worthy.

And how did I get the tense wrong? It's the title of the article. I can't change it. Besides, I noted that it's from 1995.

19 posted on 04/21/2007 8:15:26 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: A. Pole

America can’t afford either of them now. The spectre of Hillary must not drive us into the horns of rinos.


20 posted on 04/21/2007 8:17:46 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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