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To: Bigh4u2

People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?


5,601 posted on 04/23/2007 4:52:13 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: Hildy

I couldn’t care less about whether people are gay or straight. In fact I count gay people among my friends. I’m more concerned about my 2nd Amendment rights, abortion, fiscal responsibility and the WOT. And I’m not sold on Rudy being the best guy for any of the four.


5,605 posted on 04/23/2007 4:54:07 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Hildy

You be wrong.


5,607 posted on 04/23/2007 4:54:54 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Hildy
People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

You're wrong. I don't agree with giving anyone special rights based on their sexual, or declared sexual activities.

5,614 posted on 04/23/2007 4:56:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Hildy

“People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?”

We don’t like gays,blacks, hispanics, asians, jews and unborn babies/sarc off........conservatives are hateful, your liberal tactics light you up.


5,619 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:15 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Hildy; Bigh4u2
People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

Hildy, as far as conservatism goes, you're wrong about damn near everything.

5,625 posted on 04/23/2007 5:00:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Hildy

“People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?”

You’ve been wrong about Rudy, so what makes you think you are right about conservatives?

A conservative is more than just the WOT and if you were one, you would know that.

You stated “I don’t give a damn about abortion” which makes it tough to see you as anything other than a ‘one issue voter’ and not a conservative.

Sorry you can’t see that now. But maybe one day, when you wonder, if Rudy gets in office, any other ‘liberal’, ‘what happened to our freedoms’ you may change your mind.

But I assure you, there are plenty of Conservatives that will fight to make sure that doesn’t happen. But if, for some reason we may fail, then you’ll have a lot to ‘reflect on’ in your later years.

Take care.


5,628 posted on 04/23/2007 5:01:33 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Hildy
"People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?"

You are wrong -you have been brainwashed by the left...

To prove it -an answer to one simple question -- WHAT one and only thing objectively defines/differentiates a "gay" person from a "non-gay" person... The sexual activity that either may choose to engage in...

Knowing the answer to the question THEN ask yourself if any rights or priveleges should be merited from society because someone chooses to engage in an unhealthy and intrinsically disordered sexual activity that has no possibility of benefiting society (e.g. creating children)...

in a nutshell -it is not about people --IT is about chosen behaviors...

5,677 posted on 04/23/2007 5:24:37 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Hildy
People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

What a crock! Folks are against extra-constitutional rights, special rights for gays.
Of course, you know that.

5,691 posted on 04/23/2007 5:32:25 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Hildy

You are wrong. I’m not saying that I go out of my way, but I don’t even think about it unless they flaunt it in my face. Public displays of affection are off limits for homosexuals as much as heterosexuals. It doesn’t go well in public. Trying to teach kids that it is “normal” and even encouraging kids to experiment is WRONG, and totally out of bounds.

I don’t care what people do behind their own doors, I just don’t want it described to 5 year olds as normal.


5,707 posted on 04/23/2007 5:46:35 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: Hildy

“People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?”


Until this thread, posters like you baffled me, I didn’t understand why so many of you were perpetually angry, and why you would make so many fundamental challenges that I didn’t think needed to be asked and responded to so frequently, on a forum where we all are already conservatives.

I would look to see if you were new, but instead many of you had been around a long time.

Now I find out that people like you aren’t so conservative, so naturally you were often in a fighting, argumentative mood while being on the forum. I knew the name Jim Robinson, and I knew he owned the forum, but I really didn’t know anything about him. Because of this thread I think I understand FR for the first time, and as a social conservative I’m glad to know that it is at the heart of the purpose of FR.

Now I see that a lot of the people that seemed so disruptive, hostile and time wasting were not really the core of this forum after all, judging by all of the banned accounts of the last couple of days.


5,751 posted on 04/23/2007 6:19:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: Hildy

Yes, I think you’re wrong. Have you ever heard of the concept “love the sinner, hate the sin?”


5,756 posted on 04/23/2007 6:22:15 PM PDT by GB
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To: Hildy
People here are not only against gay rights, they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

I don't think any one should have special rights. And that is what you mean by rights.

I don't hate homos, but I do find their unnatural perversion to be something quite sickening.

I don't even want to know about their sick sexual preference, but I don't want to know about anyones.

It was the pushy homosexuals and their outrageous agenda that caused normal family folks to dislike what they are doing.
5,901 posted on 04/23/2007 7:11:58 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Hildy
they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

I wouldn't presume to speak for every member of this forum, but I don't think I've ever met a gay person I didn't get along with.

I pretty much understand that every human is a sinner deserving of hell, and I think homosexual acts are a sin, as is extramarital sex, and a myriad of other things that humans love to do.

But I try not to hate anybody, even those who have actually committed crimes and injured or killed my fellow human beings. Hate is bad, and I refuse to let any other human govern MY emotions to do evil.

Of course, being human I do fail at that from time to time. But it's my outlook on life. Don't sweat what others say about you, don't let other's opinions govern your own.

I long ago learned that other's opinions of me are based on incomplete knowledge.

5,965 posted on 04/23/2007 7:29:10 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hildy

I’m also for gay rights. I believe a person who is gay has the same rights as any other human being. They have the right to life, the right not to be aborted, the right to succeed or fail on their own.

They have the right to police protection, to own property, to own a gun, to free speech.

Rights are endowed by our creator, and belong to each person, regardless of their nature.

Can a gay person marry? Absolutely. Governor Greevey, a gay man, was married for quite some time. Can they have children? Sure, Greevey had a child. Can they have sex with whoever they want? Sure, Greevey had sex with his aide.

I’m straight. Can I marry a man? No. Against the law. A Gay man has the same rights as I do, he can’t marry a man, I can’t marry a man.

Equal rights.


5,982 posted on 04/23/2007 7:33:19 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hildy
. . . they just plain don’t like gay people. Am I wrong?

You're profoundly wrong but you are incapable of understanding why.

You have a deeply diseased mind, Hildy. It's a common affliction among social liberals.

5,986 posted on 04/23/2007 7:33:50 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Hildy

You are wrong. I’m sure just about everyone knows a gay person/relative they like just fine. There is a vast difference between being gay and promoting the gay agenda.

That gay agenda is being promoted by liberal “gay rights” groups. It includes gay sex education & normalization for schoolkids, gay “marraige”, special protection against workplace discrimination so it would be as hard to fire a gay person as it is currently to fire a lazy minority, partner benefits costing taxpayers millions, “hate crimes” legislation. Just look at Canada for an example. Preachers are getting hauled in for calling homosexuality wron and sinful.


6,581 posted on 04/24/2007 5:53:49 AM PDT by pissant
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