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To: Alamo-Girl
Indeed. It seems to me they would have a real problem arguing against equal rights for animals, pedophilia, bestiality, infanticide, etc. - or conversely, in favor of personal responsibility.

To say that the moral law is "whatever I say it is," and one person's moral law is just as good as the other guy's ("different strokes for different folks"), is tantamount to saying there is no moral law. Period. All becomes "relative" to the needs and desires of my ego....

You cannot have a just, secure society premised on such a shaky basis.... FWIW

18,119 posted on 05/03/2007 6:56:04 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein.)
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To: betty boop

So very true, dearest sister in Christ!


18,121 posted on 05/03/2007 7:36:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; y'all
One thing that perplexes me is secularists (e.g., Libertarians, et al.) say that you don't need God in order to have a moral base.

No Betty, they say we don't need 'a particular god' in order to have a base for our rule of law.

Considering the universality of the moral law, I wonder what "secular" (finite, contingent, man-made) thing can serve as the basis for moral law.

Our concept - "do onto others, as you would have done onto you", - is a man made virtually universal/world wide golden rule. -- And it works, as you can see demonstrated by our Constitution.

To say -- ("different strokes for different folks"), is tantamount to saying there is no moral law. Period.

Not true in an absolute sense, Betty. ~Harmless~ 'different strokes' are best tolerated if you seek tolerance for your own harmless idiosyncrasies.

And I'd say we can all agree that there are many varieties of 'different folks' out there. True?

You cannot have a just, secure society premised on such a shaky basis..

Our Constitution is based on the golden rule, [granted, much abused] and if followed, we can have a just, secure society.

I'd be willing to entertain all proposals!!!

Thanks for the opportunity to give y'all mine.

18,122 posted on 05/03/2007 7:46:48 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND A VERY KEY ISSUE IN OUR ERA.

The globalists have that relativistic philosophy and have been pushing it wholesale for many decades.

Of course, when they get in OVERT power it will be changed very starkly.

THEN or shortly thereafter, it will be ONE WAY—WORSHIP SATAN, OR DIE.


18,125 posted on 05/03/2007 9:28:15 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: betty boop

BTTT!


18,126 posted on 05/03/2007 9:36:25 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America.)
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