Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
I actually caught up enough to post a little news on the Long War thread. I am amazed.
I think this race will be over in a little over 2 weeks.
Fred Thompson will announce, McCain will see the writing on the wall and ease out of the race, Romney’s going to see his contributor’s cash dry up(Fred announcing will kill his campaign), and Rudy will see his numbers plunge again as Fred climbs in the polls.
I think the Republicans in the race, AND the RATS, are scared to death of Fred Thompson. I’ve never seen so many hit pieces on somebody who’s not officially running for POTUS in the usual suspects in the MSM...
btw, I doubt that some of these people will be back. I don't agree with their political position right now, but they are good people who should still be here.
But that's JMHO......
“It will accomplish nothing, and the reasoned voices will be stilled if this kind of thread is indicative of the future......”
It’s politics. It’s pointed elbows because it matters, because it’s critical. It’s primary season, you fight hard and then you shake hands.
Who told you that? Reagan won all of those in your list, in 1984.
Guiliani wins all of our solid Red states and makes us quite competitive in more than a few blue states.
If his views on abortion or gun control haven't changed since he was Mayor of NYC, he'll lose in the red states. He wouldn't even win over many Democrat votes in Montana just on those two issues. Especially in my county. Montana has it's share of Hollyweird leftists, but thankfully none of them live where I do.
The counsel on Foreign Relations sets the standards. It’s near impossible to explain the agenda of the CFR/RIIA to form a world government. It is already set up...just waiting for the next signal and provocation.
What a riot! Unless one is an illegal alien! Couldn't do that now could we Rudy?
His attack on me makes no sense whatsoever.
If I'm not free to oppose Hillary Clinton on a conservative forum, then this place is in bad shape.
In fact, starting tomorrow, I am thinking about starting a thread to pray for this forum and the upcoming election, and all those who are working for getting the conservative message out, and that none of us get blinded from the things that really matter.
Be sure to greet everyone over at wideawakes for us. So long.
Because that is EXACTLY what's been happening to me.
I didn’t understand that either (”pro-military foreign policy conservative”). I’m for a strong national defense, strong nat’l security—but I don’t particularly like our leaders to be “Pro-Military” without further definition. I’d like to see more of what Rudy truly believes (or what his handlers may be pushing for).
I forgot to ping you to my follow-up question.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=4270#4270
I refused to support Arnold even though I share some of his liberal values. I knew Arnold was going to be Gray Davis’s stunt double. I voted Libertarian for Governor in 2006 in California. I knew Arnold was not honest. I know Rudy would probally be just as bad as Arnold. Never going to vote for Hillary or Gore or Obama, but I will likely vote third party for president.
Screw that! You think we can save the house by burning it down? You know what 8 years of ...hillary “most likely gore” would do regarding are military and SCOTUS picks. I tell you what if you really believe that tell that to the next Marine who is humiliated by having to salute the next POTUS Hillary Clinton. Me thinks you’d be looking for a emergency ward.
1984 was 23 years ago. A lot has changed since then. Plus, Guiliani is no Reagan.
If his views on abortion or gun control haven't changed since he was Mayor of NYC, he'll lose in the red states.
Not if his opponent is Hillary or Obama.
Exactly. Rudy is not a Conservative - he's a Republican. Since this website is oriented toward conservative issues, I'm not sure why discussions concerning the GOP are even relevant.
Conservatives who wish to participate in the GOP nomination process are in many ways RINOs. They're Republicans in Name Only in that they don't really support the broad coalition of positions that define the party.
Supporting Rudy's efforts to win the GOP nomination has about as much relevance at FR as postulating that Hillary! will win the Dem's. Neither has much to do with Conservatives.
The bottom line is that without a Reagan on the horizon who can define conservative ideals and sell them to the public, the GOP is going to move to the left in order to preserve political power. Rudy is the result of that calculus.
Conservatives are going to have to take a sabbatical in order to refine, polish & prepare the message for when a suitable standard-bearer appears. FR represents an excellent forum in which to hone this pitch.
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Giuliani | Clinton | Dem Platform | GOP Platform |
---|---|---|---|---|
Abortion on Demand | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Partial Birth Abortion | SupportsOpposed NY ban | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Roe v. Wade | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Taxpayer Funded Abortions | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Embryonic Stem Cell Research | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Federal Marriage Amendment | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes Defined at state level |
Supports |
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Openly Gay Military | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Defense of Marriage Act | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens |
Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Protecting 2nd Amendment | Opposes |
Opposes | Opposes Supports bans |
Supports |
Confiscating Guns | Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged. |
Supports | Supports Supports bans |
Opposes |
'Assault' Weapons Ban | Supports | Supports | Supports | |
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers |
Supports Filed One Himself |
Supports | Opposes | |
Gun Registration/Licenses | Supports | Supports | Opposes | |
War in Afghanistan | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports | Supports |
War in Iraq | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports Weak support |
Supports |
Patriot Act | Supports | Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006 |
Opposes | Supports |
I don't think I'll be posting much on the open forum after this thread, but I WILL pray, and I will be glad to join you in prayer for FR.
There is obviously a great need for it.
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