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To: stand watie
As you are WELL aware, i said that THE AUTHOR of a BOOK titled YACHTS AGAINST SUBS said that.

Oh. yeah. The book that no one can find a sign of, other than your say-so.

U.S. Coast Guard 214th Birthday Celebration ~ August 4 2004 ,

To: All
bet ya'll didn't know that the CG ARMED private fishing boats in the Chesapeake Bay AND provided arms (including water-cooled heavy MGs AND some "light deck guns", read CANNONS!) to the Maryland, New York, Rhode Island, Texas (fyi,all TX gunboats are named/re-named for TX cities, when serving in wartime) and Virginia "state naval forces" (read:PRIVATEERS!), during WW2.

SOME of those fishing boats/yachts got into SHOOT-OUTS with German submarines & WON! all of the "privately-crewed gunboats did VALUABLE service to the war effort!

The CITY OF GOLIAD (formerly the 64-foot motor yacht, EEL) captured a U-boat in 1942 & towed it to Galveston,TX as a PRIZE OF WAR! (the U-boat is now berthed in the Galveston County Park.)

The CITY OF GONZALES (formerly the 88-foot sailing yawl, GRAY-HOUND)fought a 2-hour surface battle with another U-boat & SUNK the submarine, with a direct hit from a WW1-surplus ANTI-TANK GUN!

see the book YACHTS AGAINST SUBS by RAM(retired) L.B.N.Gnaedinger for more details! facinating book!

free dixie,sw

36 posted on 08/04/2004 5:24:19 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)

Then, on another thread, you said,
Post #3079 To: capitan_refugio

as a matter of fact STATES can/DID separately declare war on foreign powers as late as WW2.

MD,RI & TX (and perhaps some other states) declared war on the Axis powers AND commissioned armed gunboats with state naval militia and/or private gunboats under "letters of marque & reprisal".

SEVERAL of those privateers & STATE-owned GUNBOATS ACTUALLY destroyed enemy vessels & one (the gunboat Corpus Christi) actually captured a German submarine (with all the surviving crew), after a surface gun-battle that lasted several hours.

to give you an idea of how NASTY & close quarters the shooting between the gunboat & sub was, consider that MOST of the wounded/dead German sailors "suffered from BUCKSHOT or PISTOL wounds, inflicted during the fight at sea". (source the Galveston,TX County Courier.)

also see: YACHTS AGAINST SUBS, published in 1947 & SUDDEN DEATH ON THE BAY, published in 1960 by the Cheaspeake Bay Historical Assn.

free dixie,sw

Post #3200 To: capitan_refugio

nonetheless these THREE states DID lawfully declare war on the Axis powers, the State of Maryland DID arm & operate STATE-OWNED armed motor & sailing (!) vessels, under their rights to arm/train/utilize STATE naval MILITIA forces AND

RI & TX DID grant letters of marque & reprisal against Germany/Italy/Japan.

NOTE: the US District Court for the Eastern District of Texas (sitting in Houston, TX) DID find in the case of the privateer gunboat,CORPUS CHRISTI, (concerning the German U-Boat gun battle at sea, 1942) in 1945-6 that the Letter of Marque & Reprisal , issued by the Legislature of the State of Texas in Jan 1942, was LAWFUL under the Law of War,

that the SEIZURE of the U-Boat in battle was LAWFUL under the Law of War & that the U-Boat was a lawful PRIZE of WAR, which was rightly the property of the STATE of TX(the submarine is on display in the County Park in Galveston.).

AND that the crew of the captured submarine were NOT prisoners of war of the UNITED STATES, but rather of the SOVEREIGN STATE of TEXAS!

once again, may i suggest that you read YACHTS AGAINST SUBS. (sadly, i do NOT own a copy of the book BUT the University of Houston has at least one copy that can be borrowed through Interlibrary loan.)

fyi, since i wrote about this subject yesterday, i found out that the State of New York MAY have granted some PRIVATE vessels permission to be ARMED & "to prey on enemy shipping & vessels" during WW1. (is this the SAME as a letter of marque? i do NOT know the answer to that question, as i'm NOT a maritime lawyer, but it certainly sounds like the same thing.)

free dixie,sw

So, you not only cite Gnaedinger, you cite the Galveston, TX County Courier as support for this tale of a captured U-boat and subsequent legal case, and you can't decide what the name of the capturing boat was. Talk about not being able to keep your story straight. So, when are we going to let the Alexandria synagogue know that you know their history better than they do?
326 posted on 05/03/2007 2:43:43 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
in other words, you CONFIRM your REPUTATION for being a clueLESS FOOL, a TROLL & a DUMB-bunny, who is SO DUMB that he doesn't KNOW that he's a JOKE to everyone, who reads his IGNORANT/SILLY/STUPID posts.

"get a LIFE", TROLL.

fwiw, DU awaits your arrival, with bated breath. TROLLS, IDIOTS, CREEPS & FOOLS are STARS on DU. BE GONE!

fwiw, my UNsupported "word" is accepted as FACT, by about 100 times as many FReepers than yours will EVER be. your REPUTATION on FR is that of a FOOL/LIAR/lunatic & TROLL.

free dixie, sw

330 posted on 05/03/2007 3:01:45 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

There is only one “U-Boat” berthed in Galveston, and that the USS Cavalla.

I suppose we could say it was captured from the Union Navy by texans.


335 posted on 05/03/2007 7:12:12 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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