[steve8714]

I hate no one, and maybe you didn’t read my post, but only looked. I would not have made fun of them, but would have opened myself to the ridicule of their friends, which would have been behind my back, and whose opinions meant less than nothing to me. my ex-wife once told me my 14 year old daughter had “a right to a life of her own”. I told her she had the right to whatever life I let her have.

[NittanyLion]

I told her she had the right to whatever life I let her have.

That's certainly an "interesting" approach to parenting. How did that work out for you?

[pollyannaish]

You’re right, I’m sorry. I misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying you threatened to humiliate them personally in front of their friends, not that you were willing to be humiliated to do what was right. Those are two completely different things.

I can’t judge your situation, other than what you post...and I misread that one. I am sorry.

[pollyannaish]

One other comment on this and then I’ll let it go.

There is a significant difference between teasing and embarrassing and humiliation.

A subtle difference, but in the context of this conversation I believe a crucial one.