Posted on 04/20/2007 5:06:55 PM PDT by advance_copy
Do your children have children of their own yet?
Yes. Stephen must be completely heart broken over his brother’s stubborn spirit. The two are like light and darkness.
‘round these parts it’s called a “come to Jesus meetin’”
I hear you. God bless you always. You are His child, only rented to them. They failed, not you. But God will never fail you. Many of us undergo awful experiences before we surrender to God. He wants us to come to Him.
The trouble with childhood abuse, even for people who survive it, it the need to reinvent yourself.
And further, THE trap is the seemingly unending hope that somehow the parent(s) will stop the verbal and psychological games and abuse, which never happens. Very few people understand the arena of psychological abuse. I hope to publish my book on the subject one day.
Because he has not demonstrated that he is beating or raping the child his outrageous verbal abuse of her is okay?
Sorry but I think your childhood experiences have warped your sense of right and wrong.
NO abuse of a child is okay, and Baldwin’s behavior is way out of line. This wasn’t a recorded conversation, it was a phone message and he demonstrated what a narcissistic jack@$$ he is (as if we didn’t already know) with absolutely no idea of how to raise a child. If I was Kim Basinger that man would NEVER see my daughter again!
Outstanding post.
Sounds like he refuses to have a cell phone but his 11 year old is expected to have one on her and turned on at all times so he can call her and tell her what a pig she is.
My parents always used the belt on us, and my dad would occasionally whack us in the back of the head with his Holy Cross ring as we walked past him after a chewing out.
But my parents never...NEVER used such demeaning language towards us. Never. Never. They KNEW that words can hurt much worse than a belt ever could, and would leave marks for a long time.
That was just awful hearing that. Awful. What came out of that man’s mouth to his child. And it was telling about the kind of person he OBVIOUSLY is. I don’t care how much he has been yanked around by her, her mother or anyone else.
VERBAL VIOLENCE
Not only does he not have a cell phone, but Baldwin
thinks Friday the 20th is the day after Wednesday the
11th, He doesn’t know how old his daughter is and he
expects her to pick up the phone on a school day at
10:30 in the morning. Most schools’ don’t allow kids
to have cell phones.
VERBAL VIOLENCE
As an adopted mother I can assure you that I would never have passed a home study if such behavior was documented in my past. And as a human being, I am saddened that you think this is normal behavior for a parent. It is not. I can not believe the rationalizations that I have been reading. If Alec Baldwin was upset about his inability to talk to his daughter, why didn’t he simply say so. Further, I did not hear him say one time how much he loved her. Face it, he is a control freak who thinks the whole world revolves around him.
I agree. The same is true if a mother behaves hatefully. The message is: How can anyone love me if I am unworthy even of my mother's love, or my father's love?
Apologies are cheap after the parent has used the child for an emotional toilet and has just taken a big dump.
“It’s that damned Johnson and this damned war, it made me crazy...”
What a sad perspective you have.
“Per KABC, Baldwin is now threatening to sue TMZ’ Harvey Levin because of the audio recording’s public release.”
The same group that is screaming about the release of this tape now had no problem at all with the illegally obtained wiretap of House Republicans that wound up in Jim McDermott’s possession.
Losing your temper and saying stuff you regret later is one thing, but Baldwin went way, way, way beyond that. He called her a pig, twice, and he threatened her. He couldn't even remember her age in that rant. There was no fatherly love in that message - that was nothing more than a boorish, egotistical sack of dog crap with a grossly exaggerated sense of self worth using his little girl to play dominance games with his (I'm sure) equally sleazy Hollyweird ex-wife. But Kim Basinger's trashiness is a whole other issue, and if he had directed that rant at her, it would be a whole different deal.
If I had an 11 or 12 year-old child, and if any adult had called my home and left that kind of message for him or her, I would have driven over to that son of a bitch's house that night and stomped him into the ground.
I thought this guy had left the country after W’s victory!??!
Characterizing his words as some form of appropriate discipline is like serving manure as "food" because it is organic.
Words are for communicating discipline with love. You can be stern without lacerating the child's soul and threatening the child "when I get out there I'm going to straighten your a** out..." — that's ABUSE OF POWER.
I'm very glad someone publicized this. Too many irresponsible big-money parents buy their way out of accountability.
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